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Originally Posted by Regulator75
Uhhhh, did you mean genocide?
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I'm guessing English is not his first language given the insane amount of spelling, bad grammer, and general unintelligibility of the post.
As for why genocide is the only option? I have no idea what genocide he is referring to in particular. While, I tend to agree with Alan Greenspan ( “I am saddened that it is politically inconvenient to acknowledge what everyone knows: the Iraq war is largely about oil" ). I am certain that the United States and the neoconservative elements in power that motivated the invasion of Iraq intended no genocide to take place. They foolishly believed that it would be a quick and relatively bloodless war such as that championed by George Bush senior in the first gulf war...which in the process would gain them influence in middle east oil security and easy money for government contractors and businesses.
One can certainly argue that the American army would not be fighting or killing Iraqis if they didn't face such resistance and opposition and violence from insurgent attacks. They'd be much happier giving out candies and helping to actually rebuild the country than hunting insurgents, harming civilians, stepping on landmines, and driving into rockets. On paper it looked great, they get to topple Saddam who was a sore in the international community - and most definetely guilty of genocide himself...while they also gain both political and energy security in the middle east. I wonder how people like Cheney and Rumsfeld who were so much involved in the Vietnam era Nixon regime, did not percieve that this action would result another war lasting even longer than Vietnam?
I also agree with you that it is unfortunate that many Americans are misinformed or ignorant of the facts of reality, but I'm also certain that a large portion of the population is intelligent enough not to believe that and I would suggest that if it irritates you, stop associating or having such dialogues with these narrow minded individuals and go find some smart and liberal people. Many Americans are very proud of their nation but unfortunately have a misguided view that American exceptionalism also means that they have a right to police and dictate terms to the rest of the world based on their potlical, scientific, and moral (often colluded with religious) authority...it also doesn't help that a great many of these people see the world in black and white, as in good vs. evil, us vs. them, etc. Doesn't help that the current Whitehouse Adminstration does nothing but spew out and propagate these dangerous sentiments.
But the reality is that more civilian Iraqis are killed by other Iraqis or foreign insurgents in Iraq than from American forces. America is not effecting a genocide, but are on the cusp of starting one. That's one reason why it's imperative that they stay now because they've created such a mess. Like it or not, America is the only country with the money and brawn to try to stabilize the country. If America abandons Iraq, it will likely fall into anarchy and become a failed state either run by warlords and warring religious and ethnic factions...or fall into complete civil war which will create more hardship and bloodshed than anything the American army has directly perpetrated.
As for your question of "Why do people think it is alright to kill when they are Christian people vs People that are not?"... It's because the logical outcome of fundamental religion is that you are right and everybody who does not believe in what you believe must be wrong - - - otherwise what you believe in yourself is wrong. The 10 Commandments were written at a time when the Isrealites were told to go and kill every man woman and child of the various cities in the near east that were ethnically different and believed in something different than they did because they were not the chosen people and therefore deserved death. You must not have been taught that in Catholic school. If you are right, you goto heaven. If the others are wrong, they'll goto hell anyway so it doesn't really matter how they live (or die). That is the same mentality that fundamental Islam uses to view the West.
As for Jenicide...what is that? Some kind of birth control product sold by Jenna Jameson?
Why is Geniside the only option?
