Who does this!?! Oh, Jehovah's Witness', thats who....

[Frank the Tank]

So a few months ago my cousin was on the local news because she was on the list for a kidney transplant. Her brother works for the local A-Channel, and they are always looking for medical-related stories because, well, thats what London is known for.

So, they ask Sean if Michelle would do a story about organ donation, because she gets daily dialysis and it cramps her lifestyle because she has three kids and all. So of course she does the story and it airs on the six o'clock news and its really a great story.

Then it happens. Later that night, Michelle's daughter is the only one home. There is a knock on the door and she answers it. Its an older gentleman, nicely dressed and very polite. He asks if Michelle is home. Kate says no, tells him she is her daughter and asks if she can help him. He tells Kate he just wanted to let them know that if she accepts another persons organ, that she will burn in hell forever.

Who does this!?! What kind of sick, twisted, fata do you have to be to look somebody up in the phone book, go to their house that might, to tell them this? What kind of brainwashed ###### do you have to be? Seriously. Everyone is entitled to their beliefs, but to hunt somebody down to do this? You're mentally deranged.

Just had to vent.

Anyhoo...anyone have any funny Jo-ho stories or soliciting stories?

[Frank the Tank]

Forgot to mention as well, their website, watchtower.org, is frickin' hysterical.

[jolinar of malkshor]

I have found that the JW's are the worst when it comes to not respecting others wishes. I dont now how many times I have told the same people, that come knocking on your door handing out propaganda, to buzz off and not come back. The first few times I was nice and said thanks but I was not interested and I never would be. Then it escalated to DON'T come back here I have told you a few times already. Then it basically came down to telling them I would let me dog out after them if they came back.

They finally stopped coming. Once should have been enough.

[JiriHrdina]

Speaking of freaky religious sites check out: http://www.chick.com/catalog/tractlist.asp

These are the folks that publish the little comics (aka tracts) that you find in big cities on the c-train and what not.

Scary...yet somehow amusing stuff.

[Barnes]

The only experience I have with j-hos is a guy I went to high school with was going to University and came home one day to find that his parents sold their house and were moving far away without telling him leaving him homeless and pennyless. Nice "religion".

He was a nice guy too. Kinda weird but whatever.

[Cheese]

A Cult that is part of the Christian family.....

I had the same issue with a cousin who needed a bloofd tarnsfusion badly after giving birth. Her husband a JW refused suggesting if she was to die that was Gods work. Fotunately my cousins parents intervened and got the signatures necessary to save her life.

Shortly thereafter the Husband filed for divorce, and the Judge granted HIM bot the divorce and the child.
Many thousands were spent in court therafter trying to overturn this silly ruling.

So much to despise about this organization...its amazing that people are sheep enough to follow the doctrine.

JWs versions...
Organ transplant equal to Cannibalism?
1967 "When men of science conclude that this normal process will no longer work and they suggest removing the organ and replacing it directly with an organ from another human, this is simply a shortcut. Those who submit to such operations are thus living off the flesh of another human. That is cannibalistic. However, in allowing man to eat animal flesh Jehovah God did not grant permission for humans to try to perpetuate their lives by cannibalistically taking into their bodies human flesh, whether chewed or in the form of whole organs or body parts taken from others." (Watchtower, Questions from Readers, Nov. 15, 1967 p 702-704)


The real reason blood transfusions are feared… sin transmitted by blood?
1961 "The blood in any person is in reality the person himself. ... poisons due to personal living, eating and drinking habits ... The poisons that produce the impulse to commit suicide, murder, or steal are in the blood. Moral insanity, sexual perversions, repression, inferiority complexes, petty crimes - these often follow in the wake of blood transfusion." (Watchtower, Sept. 1, 1961 page 564)


Medical vaccinations a crime, an outrage, and a delusion?
1929 "Thinking people would rather have smallpox than vaccination, because the latter sows seeds of syphilis, cancers, eczema, erysipelas, scrofula, consumption, even leprosy and many other loathsome affections. Hence the practice of vaccinations is a crime, an outrage, and a delusion" (Golden Age, Jan. 5, 1929, p502)

[ken0042]

This is what I don't get. Didn't Jesus offer wine as his blood, and ask the disciples to drink it? (The same way Catholics take communion now?)

If God doesn't want us to take the blood of another human, why did His Son ask us to do it?

(Note- please don't take offense to what I asked. I am simply not that much into religion.)

[Maritime Q-Scout]

all honesty if I answered the door and someone said that about one of my parents... well... this thread would come in pretty handy http://forum.calgarypuck.com/showthread.php?t=26583

[albertGQ]

Originally Posted by ken0042

This is what I don't get. Didn't Jesus offer wine as his blood, and ask the disciples to drink it? (The same way Catholics take communion now?)

If God doesn't want us to take the blood of another human, why did His Son ask us to do it?

(Note- please don't take offense to what I asked. I am simply not that much into religion.)

I'm not too sure, but I think JWs do not view Jesus as the son of God, but just a man that was perfect

I may be totally off base with this though

[photon]

Originally Posted by Cheese

A Cult that is part of the Christian family.....

You'd be pretty hard pressed to find any Christian who would say JWs are Christians, most label them a cult.

Wow, I'd never heard the organ transplant = cannibalism angle before.. bizarre!

And for the communion thing, some Catholics actually believe that the blood and wine become the substance of the actual blood and flesh of Jesus before consuming it. Google transubstantiation.

I guess because Jesus is alive and divine the restrictions of eating human flesh and drinking blood don't apply?

[Bobblehead]

I've seen a couple gentlemen in nice suits walking around the neighbourhood for the past few weekends. I don't know if they were JW, but they looke like it (It appears they are carrying bibles around, knocking on doors). They haven't come up to my door, but they have walked by a number of times.

There was a guy on the news the other night who was asking for people to help him in his fight against JW. Here is a link to the story from when he first filed suit. link (interesting website, but it is a CP story quoted in full)

A Calgary man suing the Jehovah's Witnesses, claiming they contributed to his daughter's death by encouraging her to avoid life-saving blood transfusions, said today his lawsuit is for her and for his family.

On the news recently he said he has run out of money for legal costs, and hopes someone will take up the cause, or help him continue.

Edit: There is a story in today's Globe & Mail about him. link

A lawsuit that accuses Jehovah's Witness members of contributing to the death of a Calgary teen who refused blood transfusions was thrown out yesterday by the Alberta Court of Queen's Bench.

[droopydrew19]

My wife was diagnosed with MS a little over a year ago. The rollercoaster nature of her condition have her walking fine one month and using a wheel chair the next.

A JW had the gall to tell her that her MS was gods way of punishing her.

So in that same vain let me ask... a child with juvinille diabetes is being punished for what??

[jolinar of malkshor]

Originally Posted by Bobblehead

I've seen a couple gentlemen in nice suits walking around the neighbourhood for the past few weekends. I don't know if they were JW, but they looke like it (It appears they are carrying bibles around, knocking on doors). They haven't come up to my door, but they have walked by a number of times.

There was a guy on the news the other night who was asking for people to help him in his fight against JW. Here is a link to the story from when he first filed suit. link (interesting website, but it is a CP story quoted in full)


On the news recently he said he has run out of money for legal costs, and hopes someone will take up the cause, or help him continue.

Edit: There is a story in today's Globe & Mail about him. link

From my experience, the JW's dont look all that professional when they are out and about trying to convert. My guess is that the 2 guys wandering your neighbourhood are Mormons. They are almost always in suit and ties. The nice thing with them is if you tell them not to come back, they won't.

[pope04]

Frank, how old is your cousin's daughter? It's bad enough this guy approached your relative's home, but to spout his gibberish to a child is morally reprehensible.

[ken0042]

Originally Posted by jolinar of malkshor

My guess is that the 2 guys wandering your neighbourhood are Mormons. They are almost always in suit and ties. The nice think with them is if you tell them not to come back, they won't.

Agreed. Yes, they can be annoying. But any time I've told them that I have already found religion, and "God bless" they always thank me for my time and are off.

[Frank the Tank]

Originally Posted by pope04

Frank, how old is your cousin's daughter? It's bad enough this guy approached your relative's home, but to spout his gibberish to a child is morally reprehensible.

She's 18.

[RougeUnderoos]

Originally Posted by droopydrew19

My wife was diagnosed with MS a little over a year ago. The rollercoaster nature of her condition have her walking fine one month and using a wheel chair the next.

A JW had the gall to tell her that her MS was gods way of punishing her.

Holy moly. How do you reply to that? Something along the lines of "Stupidity is god's way of punishing you" would be alright, but I'm sure these yahoos have pretty thick skin.

I don't like to slam the door in anyone's face, but I don't think I'd feel to bad about it after reading some of these stories.

[pope04]

Originally Posted by Frank the Tank

She's 18.

That's pretty young to hear something idiotic about your mother.

[Cheese]

Heres the kicker....when you get a JW to court they will lie to protect themselves...and all others will back their lie up...

When a Jehovah's Witness lies, he is proving his loyalty to Jehovah and fulfilling his sacred obligation to engage in spiritual warfare.

When a Christian from another denomination lies, he is acting according to his own disposition being from the father of the lie, Satan. When a Jehovah's Witness lies, he is proving his loyalty to Jehovah and fulfilling his sacred obligation to engage in spiritual warfare.

When a Jehovah's Witness is martyred, it is seen as following Christ's example and fulfillment of Scripture. When a Christian of another faith is martyred it is seen as a misguided, albeit admirable exercise in a form of faith but proving false to its Source.

When the Catholic Church engages in protecting pedophile priests by hushing up the matter it is evidence that they are a filthy Harlot. When Jehovah's Witnesses don't notify police of charges of child molestation it is because of their willingness to allow Jehovah to handle the matter in his due time; thereby displaying faith in the ultimate JUDGE.

When a Jehovah's Witness defrauds another Witness, it may be brought before the elders for possible social sanction if guilty. When a Christian of another faith defrauds a Witness he is often times encouraged to sue the pants off him and squeeze him for every dime.

[Cheese]

How to remove your house from the Jehovah's Witness' visit list:





1. Answer the door naked and carrying weaponry. (Immediate results.)
2. Pretend to be the slowest talking person in the world and see how long their spirit of Christian charity lasts.
3. Answer every one of their questions with "What do you mean by that?" This might take a while, but you and your loved ones can have fun placing bets on how long it takes for them to get flustered and leave.
4. Ask them to explain the story of Elisha and the Forty two children. You may have to resort to another method to actually get rid of them, but this will definitely make them sweat. (2 Kings, chapter 2, ummm...
somewhere near the end.)
5. Excuse yourself from your sitting room (or wherever) and DO NOT come back.
6. Make a series of increasingly reprehensible fake phone calls (booky,
order for pornography, drug deal, obscene call, and if they are STILL
there, a tearfull confession to the police for the murder of the last
Witnesses who visited you.)
7. Pick an oft-repeated word in their lexicon (God, Jesus, heaven, it, the etc.) and giggle whenever they utter it. If they ask you what's going on, say "nothing, why?" in very even tones, and giggle again.
8. Same as #7, except say "beep" instead of giggling.
9. (Males only) Feign an intense interest in their spiel. Part way through,begin putting on make-up, hosiery, a dress, the whole works. Make encouraging noises (uh huh, I see...) throughout, and if they ask you what you're doing, pull a #7. If they're still there when you are done,ask them if they would please kindly leave as you have a hot date in ten minutes.
10. Look smug and tell them that your God can beat up their God.