Yeah, it’s how guys like FireItUp end up rejecting “mainstream media” (and like, doctors, scientists, literally any professional well-respected in their weird) and find themselves cozying up with incel gamer and child porn social media accounts.
Depending on how far away from the “truth” what you want to believe is, you might have to go to some very dark places to get it.
While most of the rest of us do our research and are satisfied with the conclusion of experts, rather than whoever is feeding us the only conclusion we’d be satisfied with.
I hope no one clicked any of his Twitter links. I just shrugged them off as garbage accounts spreading lies, had no idea it was from incels who post child porn.
He should honestly get banned for that, not cool.
Really? I always assume Canadian MAGA's are all over that kind of filth, being a US MAGA is indicative of a somewhat low IQ, being Canadian MAGA is indicative of being so much more weird than just thicker than mince
Stepped into this thread to see what’s up. I can’t believe someone is arguing that Trump isn’t racist and now demands evidence of his alleged racism. I’m considering adding to my ignore list.
Well you must have a ton of evidence of Trump saying racist things. Can you provide me with the evidence, or are you just gonna regurgitate what the media has fed you?
Are you the ####tard of ####tards? I mean, seriously... you take shots at people regurgitating what is said in the media but your whole schtick is regurgitating stupid #### from Xitter. You have to be the dumbest person ever to log into this board. And yes, I will take the hit from the mods for stating what is the obvious. Jesus Christ, this stuff is the bottom of the intellectual barrel and an insult to anyone with more than two functioning brain cells. When are we going to ban stupidity to protect the innocent???
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I don't think many of you know what racism means.
Again, can anyone here show me the proof of him being racist? I'll wait.
Are you the ####tard of ####tards? I mean, seriously... you take shots at people regurgitating what is said in the media but your whole schtick is regurgitating stupid #### from Xitter. You have to be the dumbest person ever to log into this board. And yes, I will take the hit from the mods for stating what is the obvious. Jesus Christ, this stuff is the bottom of the intellectual barrel and an insult to anyone with more than two functioning brain cells. When are we going to ban stupidity to protect the innocent???
Wait a minute. That's a video of Sinclair stations being forced to read scripted messages from their corporate office. They use that leverage all the Right wing propaganda that Sinclair likes to spew and pretend it is coming from local trusted news people. This is unique to sinclair and their right wing agenda.
I guarantee no one is rebutting Fire it up with anything propagated from Sinclair, and he's just outing his own team!
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Its the old right wing go to move of accusing your enemy of the exact thing you are doing.
The media propaganda claim is true though, like Fox "News" repeatedly admitting in court they are entertainment TV and not real news. But proof and facts mean little to the right wingers, they'll just follow Supreme Leader Trump's lead and claim its rigged. Voting is rigged, the media is rigged, the Constitution is rigged.
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Wait a minute. That's a video of Sinclair stations being forced to read scripted messages from their corporate office. They use that leverage all the Right wing propaganda that Sinclair likes to spew and pretend it is coming from local trusted news people. This is unique to sinclair and their right wing agenda.
I guarantee no one is rebutting Fire it up with anything propagated from Sinclair, and he's just outing his own team!
Thanks. I was going to make a post about that but couldn't remember the name of the company. I don't know if they're the only ones doing it but they certainly made a name for themselves because of it, despite my inability to recall what it was.
And Rogan immediately backpedals and changes his tune after being attacked by right wingers and name checked by Trump himself. Probably thought he was big enough to have an opinion but is too stupid to know he’s no bigger than the cult.
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I could care less for replies. I want someone of you to actually research the stuff you say. It might actually wake some of you up to the propaganda you've been fed. When they find no facts behind what they say, they'll know they have been lied to.
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It’s also bizarre to watch people narrow in on a group of protestors who actually do care about an important, extremely relevant issue that the government actually can have an impact on and suggest they don’t have a brain, should just “deal with it,” and are being childish. That’s what I mean by “fall in line,” people are literally just being bullies towards these people with the expectation they should just do what they’re told/do what individual posts expect of them and shut up about their concerns until after the election.
It’s also bizarre because there were 81 million people that did not vote in the last election and around 100 million in the election before that. If you think not voting because the government isn’t meeting your expectations on an important issue like genocide is bad, you’d probably not handle well the millions of people who don’t vote because they “didn’t feel like it.” On top of that, there are millions of people who don’t just not vote, but vote Republican against their best interests for the weakest reasons you could possibly imagine, right down to “it’d be funny to vote for Trump.”
Instead of people turning on people they believe to be very close to on their side and salvageable and calling them names and mocking them, perhaps most of the energy (as fruitless as this particular energy is) should be directed towards those that don’t vote (or vote the wrong way) for actually childish, unserious, or selfish reasons. Maybe that’s a smarter way to make the Democratic party look less like it’s filled with pretentious, entitled morons that just expect everyone to vote for them and if they don’t they’re stupid children?
Or don’t. And have fun losing. Hillary did so well.
That last line is why I have trouble taking your position seriously. You come across like you think you can live in some kind of sheltered existence where you will be shielded from the consequences of Trump getting back into power. But you won't be. If "they" lose (from your perspective, "they" being the Harris/Walz ticket), you lose. You might not think you'll lose, but you will.
Look, if the grievance here is that the protesters don't deserve to be called names and spoken to in a rude manner, that's a perfectly understandable consideration. I hope everyone will be nicer to them from now on.
But if the grievance here is that you don't want them to be asked to vote for Harris, that's where I don't think you're being reasonable.
That last line is why I have trouble taking your position seriously. You come across like you think you can live in some kind of sheltered existence where you will be shielded from the consequences of Trump getting back into power. But you won't be. If "they" lose (from your perspective, "they" being the Harris/Walz ticket), you lose. You might not think you'll lose, but you will.
Look, if the grievance here is that the protesters don't deserve to be called names and spoken to in a rude manner, that's a perfectly understandable consideration. I hope everyone will be nicer to them from now on.
But if the grievance here is that you don't want them to be asked to vote for Harris, that's where I don't think you're being reasonable.
Well, the specific grievance, if we want to call it that, is that people should either accept that those votes are unattainable (and be OK with that) or find a way to gain those votes outside of “shut up and do it, children.”
The sheltered thing is kind of funny since I’m pretty sure only one of us is American and is actually gonna vote in this election. I’m perfectly aware of the consequences of Trump and my vote isn’t wavering.
Well, your "have fun losing" comment was dripping with the attitude of "I won't be affected by it".
I do honestly think that those who refuse to vote for Harris specifically because of Gaza, aren't and shouldn't be beyond reproach. They want to have it both ways - do a damaging thing, yet not be criticized for it.
Well, your "have fun losing" comment was dripping with the attitude of "I won't be affected by it".
I do honestly think that those who refuse to vote for Harris specifically because of Gaza, aren't and shouldn't be beyond reproach. They want to have it both ways - do a damaging thing, yet not be criticized for it.
Do you think that makes them more or less likely to vote D?
I don't think many of you know what racism means.
Again, can anyone here show me the proof of him being racist? I'll wait.
He was a huge proponent in Birtherism and insinuated the same against Harris last election
He questioned why America should accept immigrants from "####hole" countries like Haiti and Africa instead of Norway.
He wrote:
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“So interesting to see ‘Progressive’ Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run,”
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When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're sending people that have lots of problems. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists, and some, I assume, are good people
He called out Elijah Cummings and his predominantly black district as a
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Cumming District is a disgusting, rat and rodent infested mess. If he spent more time in Baltimore, maybe he could help clean up this very dangerous & filthy place.
He said this:
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When I did the mug shot in Atlanta, that mug shot is No. 1... You know who embraced it more than anyone else? The Black population.
He mentioned immigrants are taking Black Jobs and Hispanic Jobs.
He openly uses the N-word
On the Apprentice he stated "but, I mean, would America buy a n— winning"
He attempted to pass an Executive Order banning diversity training.
He called COVID the "kung flu"
One of his most recent tweets he misspelt Kamala (while continually and intentionally mispronouncing it) and referred to Obama as "Barack HUSSEIN Obama"
Glad you asked. He always talks about the Republican Party platform and policies, it's called Agenda 47 and it's all over his socials and website.
Most people on the left wouldn't know though, they tend to get their information from the reliable news outlets that are completely truthful.
Orange man bad! https://www.donaldjtrump.com/platform https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jvT...oH92SD9iT8d4z9
Here is the Harris Website.
I wouldn't click it, unless you want to be bombarded with donation buttons and nothing about policies or the Dems platform.
Just give them money, and they'll tell you what they are going to do later. https://kamalaharris.com/
I actually took the time to read the long version of his platform and as someone who lived in America during Trump’s four years, I’m shocked people can read that and take it seriously. Democrats are a mess, but Republicans have completely lost their way from the party I watched growing up. They went from the party of morals and small government to a party of hate and government intervention.
That platform is nothing more than cheap talking points to feed the continued fear that Americans are losing their country to an invisible enemy. The irony is the Republican Party is the biggest threat to the US long term. Walls aren’t going to stop people from entering when nearly half of illegal immigrants and large portion of drugs come by plane or the Northern border.
They go on to mention the Bible, religion, and Christians throughout that document. You know how many times the they mentioned the word debt or deficit? Zero! They made sure to fit the word “great” in there 19 times though. This isn’t a platform, this is scare tactics for the average uneducated voter. No substance at all.
This is a party more concerned with “men in woman sports” than budgets and their leaders obsessive spending habits while he ran the country for four years. Trump tried to buy the 2020 election by printing trillions and handing out checks to everyone. Even making sure his signature was on the check. Now they claim to want to “reverse the worst inflation crisis” forgetting to mention he was one that caused it, not only with his poor budgeting, but his refusal to take Covid seriously.
Why didn’t he make middle class tax cuts permanent the first time he was in office? He did for us top earners.
How do you fully fund Social Security long term while making absolutely no changes? Glad I’m gonna see tax cuts because my SS contribution is about to skyrocket.
Why did he only add 80 miles of new border wall if Mexico is such a threat?
They claim they will “end the weaponization of government against American people” while in the same document attacking LGBTQ+ rights, woman’s body rights, education rights, etc. Let’s not even go into how this same group always brings up the constitution while completely ignoring it by forcing religion into schools. Some states going as far as threatening to fire teachers who won’t conform. Is bringing religion and the Bible into schools really a top 20 priority for this country right now?
I think my favorite line in that document was “protect free speech online”. When has the government forbidden or arrested someone for online speech? Is there even one example of this? Oh, my bad, they just mean forcing private companies like Twitter and Meta to allow them to be openly racist, spread fake news, and be hateful as part of that.
Personally, being selfish, a Trump election helps me and my family. Him printing all that money and handing it out helped my business boom. This election is a win-win for me. However, not everyone can say that. We are lucky enough to be in the top 1%, but I can see the long term outlook of another four years isn’t worth it to the average American. One of the reasons I have been back lurking on this forum is we have discussed moving back to Canada (maybe Canmore lol) if Trump gets elected. Not to run away for when he is president, but for the aftermath. I can see the cash we would stack over his four years again and then bolt when it all comes crashing down like this last time. Only it will be much worse by 2028 should he win again.
The sad reality is the Republican Party has turned into the victim party and Donald Trump is leading the way with this platform. Their platform isn’t what’s great for America, it’s what’s great for them and only them. You will continue to see more radical policies to discriminate and close off the USA to keep his southern base happy while giving all his elite friends the biggest pieces of the pie. At this point it may be worth the risk to take a candidate without a platform than elect one with a pandering platform for votes. I don’t trust any politician, but I distrust Trump even more. He is the definition of conman. Sad any Canadian would look south and think “I want me some of that”.
However, for the sake of making enough money to retire early and afford Flames tickets for life when we move back…MAGA! lol
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And Rogan immediately backpedals and changes his tune after being attacked by right wingers and name checked by Trump himself. Probably thought he was big enough to have an opinion but is too stupid to know he’s no bigger than the cult.
Rogan is such a f'n loser.
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And Rogan immediately backpedals and changes his tune after being attacked by right wingers and name checked by Trump himself. Probably thought he was big enough to have an opinion but is too stupid to know he’s no bigger than the cult.
He should have learned from Kyle Rittenhouse, not to mention Liz Cheney.
Do you think that makes them more or less likely to vote D?
I honestly don't know if there's anything that will be enough to win over their vote (though hopefully I'm wrong about that).
Harris has chosen Walz as VP, snubbed Netanyahu's speech, and called for a ceasefire. What more does she have to do? She's Biden's VP, and can't go over his head on foreign policy decisions for the rest of his term.
Be more polite, yes, I suppose she could be. But beyond that, if she gets too pointed in her rhetoric against the Israeli government, there are likely electoral consequences.
My hope is that the protesters will at some point realize hey, I'm not getting everything I want here, but I do understand the vital importance of defeating Trump, and letting him win won't solve anything. So I'll vote for Harris even though I'm not getting what I truly want.
