06-30-2016, 10:20 AM
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#161
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This is also part of the risk of playing for the hometown team. Your friends and family all live here, all follow the team, and when things go south they all probably hear about it too. I feel sorry for him, and for his family who have been incredibly generous through charities. I am just also glad that he is no longer a Flame, and sorry it didn't work out for him.
You can understand why a guy like Mike Green won't even think about playing at 'home'. Some players love playing at home, but there is always extra pressure, and the possibility of it ending badly.
Good luck to Mason Raymond, and I hope he picks up a PTO somewhere. If he hangs around long enough for the expansion, he may just translate that into another multi-year contract with someone, provided he has a good season like he did in Toronto.
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06-30-2016, 10:20 AM
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#162
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Flames Town
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Originally Posted by J79
Is this the first official buyout in Calgary Flames history?
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Nigel Dawes
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06-30-2016, 10:22 AM
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#163
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by J79
Is this the first official buyout in Calgary Flames history?
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Nigel Dawes...Shane O'Brien...and maybe there was one more?
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06-30-2016, 10:25 AM
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#164
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In the Sin Bin
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Oh happy day! I got a little scared there when Gulutzan was talking about Raymond as a reclamation project. Raymond was by far the worst player on the Flames the past couple years. Good to see us moving on and hopefully the 2 million saved helps us land someone useful.
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06-30-2016, 10:32 AM
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#165
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by JurassicTunga12
Hope he lands on his feet somewhere.
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If he is wearing skates at the time, highly unlikely. Anyone went near him the last two years he ended up on his butt.
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06-30-2016, 10:38 AM
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#166
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Vancouver, B.C.
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But who's gonna stick handle aimlessly into the offensive zone around the net and fire the puck all the way back down the ice now?
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06-30-2016, 10:40 AM
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#167
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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I'm so conflicted about this, he seems like such a nice guy and yet I'm elated that hes gone.
I want to celebrate, but then I dont.
Curse you!
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06-30-2016, 10:42 AM
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#168
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As a Flames fan, I'm more than happy he's gone. Nature of the business, the ones that have the great attitudes and nice personas are usually kept around after their careers are done. Just ask Craig Conroy and Martin Gelinas. Heck, there was chatter about Brian MacGrattan in town for an office position not too long ago as well.
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06-30-2016, 10:47 AM
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#169
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Originally Posted by Locke
I'm so conflicted about this, he seems like such a nice guy and yet I'm elated that hes gone.
I want to celebrate, but then I dont.
Curse you!
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I'm only excited he is gone because I won't have to hear people complaining about him. So I guess I'm just excited that I won't have to hear complaining about him for another year.
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06-30-2016, 10:47 AM
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#170
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
Nigel Dawes...Shane O'Brien...and maybe there was one more?
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Craig Button bought out Martin St. Louis I believe. The rules were different then though.
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06-30-2016, 10:48 AM
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#171
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Income Tax Central
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Originally Posted by Buff
I'm only excited he is gone because I won't have to hear people complaining about him. So I guess I'm just excited that I won't have to hear complaining about him for another year.
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From an organizational perspective I'm glad this problem is dealt with. His cap hit is reasonable now, we dont have to deal with this anymore.
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06-30-2016, 10:49 AM
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#172
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RANDOM USER TITLE CHANGE
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: South Calgary
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Originally Posted by Flames Draft Watcher
Oh happy day! I got a little scared there when Gulutzan was talking about Raymond as a reclamation project. Raymond was by far the worst player on the Flames the past couple years. Good to see us moving on and hopefully the 2 million saved helps us land someone useful.
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"Low risk signing" tag aside, doesn't that honor go to Setoguchi? I guess the own goal against Vancouver was pretty brutal.....
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06-30-2016, 10:50 AM
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#173
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by Buff
I'm only excited he is gone because I won't have to hear people complaining about him. So I guess I'm just excited that I won't have to hear complaining about him for another year.
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Nope, people will still complain about him for as long as he is on the cap, so 2 more years
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06-30-2016, 10:54 AM
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#174
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Flames fan in Seattle
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Any Treliving quotes for the specific reason yet?
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06-30-2016, 01:59 PM
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#175
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Originally Posted by Frank MetaMusil
"Low risk signing" tag aside, doesn't that honor go to Setoguchi? I guess the own goal against Vancouver was pretty brutal.....
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TJ Galiardi. /enddiscussion
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06-30-2016, 02:00 PM
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#176
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: I don't belong here
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Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe
Nope, people will still complain about him for as long as he is on the cap, so 2 more years 
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Out of site, out of mind. It won't be quite so bad.
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06-30-2016, 02:58 PM
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#177
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#1 Goaltender
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Good luck to him in the future.
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06-30-2016, 03:05 PM
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#178
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One of the Nine
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Space Sector 2814
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locke
I'm so conflicted about this, he seems like such a nice guy and yet I'm elated that hes gone.
I want to celebrate, but then I dont.
Curse you!
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It's like being at a party and not thinking you're going to get any then the fat chick makes herself available. Yay!.... err... ugghh ok fine.
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06-30-2016, 03:09 PM
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#179
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Franchise Player
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So burying him in the minors results in a $2.2 million cap hit this year and nothing next year. Buying him out saves $1 million in cap this year, but costs an extra $1 million next year.
This buyout has nothing to do with cap savings and mostly about saving the organization $1 million dollars in actual salary.
The Flames don't ever seem to skimp on salary but this also shows it's a real business and the owners won't spend money wantonly. Really wish the guy could have shown something.
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06-30-2016, 03:15 PM
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#180
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In the Sin Bin
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Burying him in the minors also takes a spot away from a developing prospect, something that may have been a factor as well
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