Forever Canadian Petition Support (Alberta Politics)

[#-3]

Originally Posted by Regorium

But seriously all the locations are really hard to get to as a downtown office drone. I'm surprised there are no downtown locations during working hours.

It's important enough to me that I'll go out of my way to sign but I am hoping there'll be some major downtown Calgary events at some point. Maybe even a permanent location in the Core or something.

Depending on your commute, I think there are a few good inner city options for on your way in/out. But definitely not overly convenient. I'm going to need to explicitly seek one of them out rather than just coming upon the opportunity, which I think isn't the best for their chances.

https://www.forever-canadian.ca/sign...1-42796aaa8293 SW

https://www.forever-canadian.ca/sign...d-29f3e193115a SE

https://www.forever-canadian.ca/sign...0-581de8ace310 NW

https://www.forever-canadian.ca/sign...9-a3829b5e3793 NE

[Amethyst]

Originally Posted by Regorium

But seriously all the locations are really hard to get to as a downtown office drone. I'm surprised there are no downtown locations during working hours.

It's important enough to me that I'll go out of my way to sign but I am hoping there'll be some major downtown calgary events at some point. Maybe even a permanent location in the Core or something.

I think part of it is that if you're in a building, they must agree to having you there, while in parks they can just set up. I will mention this to the Calgary coordinator though and see what they can do.

[Amethyst]

Downtown locations:
There is one at Century Gardens (8th Street and 8th Avenue) on Friday, September 5 from 11AM - 1PM.
They are planning one for City Hall (probably outside) next week and trying to get a few set up on Stephen Avenue (no details yet).

They also would be happy to set up some indoor venues, but need building operators to agree. If anyone is willing / able to talk to their building about having a table in the lobby, PM me and I will connect you with the organizer.

[Regorium]

Originally Posted by Amethyst

I think part of it is that if you're in a building, they must agree to having you there, while in parks they can just set up. I will mention this to the Calgary coordinator though and see what they can do.

Did the recall the mayor petition have to go through all this? They had just insane presence in Calgary through the entire thing just moving from +15 to +15 every day.

Maybe the +15's are a bit of a free for all zone?

Either way I did my part - just want an easy place to send colleagues and friends that may be on the fence. Thanks for the information!

[#-3]

Originally Posted by Regorium

Did the recall the mayor petition have to go through all this? They had just insane presence in Calgary through the entire thing just moving from +15 to +15 every day.

Maybe the +15's are a bit of a free for all zone?

Either way I did my part - just want an easy place to send colleagues and friends that may be on the fence. Thanks for the information!

I'm guessing these guys are being a lot more careful to make sure every signature is above board. Especially given that the Mayoral petition was tossed out for not verifying the signatories, and that we have a Premier that is a closet separatist and openly antithetical to their efforts who will take any action possible to invalidate what they are doing.

[puffnstuff]

Odds smith has the govt challenge the signatures and the question is even money

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Odds smith has the govt challenge the signatures and the question is even money

You mean she won't listen to the will of the people? But that's her thing!

[WideReceiver]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Odds smith has the govt challenge the signatures and the question is even money

That thought has crossed my mind, but we have about 4,300 canvassers who are giving our all who would be severely pissed, plus the hundreds of thousands of people who have signed our petitions. I’m approaching 200 signatures now and some canvassers have much bigger numbers. I don’t think Dani would dare do that. /fingers crossed

[IliketoPuck]

Any sense for the count yet? Simple math of 4300 * 200 is clear, but I'm curious what the average signature tally looks like. Fairly reasonable to assume that less densely populated areas (rural, etc.) would have far fewer signatures, so the 200 per canvasser is likely overstated.

My wife and I signed when we were passing through Cochrane over the weekend, and it seemed as though a fairly steady flow of folks were signing as we waited at MacKays.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by WideReceiver

That thought has crossed my mind, but we have about 4,300 canvassers who are giving our all who would be severely pissed, plus the hundreds of thousands of people who have signed our petitions. I’m approaching 200 signatures now and some canvassers have much bigger numbers. I don’t think Dani would dare do that. /fingers crossed

I think she is absolutely power drunk enough to challenge the signatures. She would even come out and say something like "we are just following the process to ensure everything was done correctly". She doesn't care what the canvassers or the people signing the petition think, she already assumes they are against her.

Hopefully once the signatures are collected and put forth there is nothing for her to challenge.

[puffnstuff]

https://bsky.app/profile/lukaszukab..../3lxy6dgvhl227

Many of you are asking me how confidential are the #ForeverCanadian signatures and if government officials will see them.
They will be treated by Elections Alberta like voting ballots. Once counted, they will be destroyed. Government has no access to this information.

[WideReceiver]

I’ve had a few people ask about confidentiality. Monday an employee of Elections Alberta signed with me. She explained how confidentiality works and, especially, how they vet all of those signatures. They compare with voter lists.

[WideReceiver]

How do we know Dani won’t ignore the petition and carry on as usual?

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by Regorium

But seriously all the locations are really hard to get to as a downtown office drone. I'm surprised there are no downtown locations during working hours.

It's important enough to me that I'll go out of my way to sign but I am hoping there'll be some major downtown calgary events at some point. Maybe even a permanent location in the Core or something.

From page 2 of the thread:

Originally Posted by Smartcar

If anyone is downtown/beltine looking to sign I have my credentials, you can sign at my business (17th Ave and Macleod) I’m usually there 10-5:30 weekdays - if I’m there I can come out and get your signature, you don’t even have to get out of your car ��

PM me for details.

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by WideReceiver

How do we know Dani won’t ignore the petition and carry on as usual?

The rules are actually pretty clear on this and what happens should the petition be successful:

https://www.elections.ab.ca/recall-i...ative-process/

If I remember correctly, the Forever-Canadian petition is actually a Policy Petition, which means these are the steps required to be taken:

Policy Proposal

1. The Speaker of the Legislative Assembly shall lay the proposal before the Legislative Assembly if it is then sitting, or if it is not then sitting, within 15 days after the commencement of the next sitting.
2. Within 10 sitting days, the Government shall bring forward a motion to have the proposal referred to a committee of the Legislative Assembly.
3. Within 90 days if the Assembly is sitting, or within 15 days after the commencement of the next sitting, the committee may either table a report with respect to the policy proposal at the earliest practicable opportunity or table a report recommending the policy proposal be referred to the Lieutenant Governor in Council for the purpose of a referendum.
4. A referendum must be held on or before the fixed date of the next provincial general election. If that date is less than one year after the date the recommendation is tabled, the referendum must be held before the provincial general election following the next provincial general election.

This is a very interesting strategy because it will force the UCP to review the question as it is worded and discuss whether it needs to be in a referendum or not. If the UCP are not careful they could out themselves as separatists on record in the Legislative, which would make national headlines.