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Old 04-27-2018, 11:17 AM   #121
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Please stop putting Ferland on the top line he is a 3rd line winger on a good team. Rene Bourque 2.0
a. Completely off topic.
b. Horrible take. Bourque's issue was a ton of physical talent, who signed a long term $3.3M deal and immediately went into sleep mode. Ferland is a guy who plays with plenty of effort (though hampered by his concussions) and wound up being given a role far above expectations, playing on a cheap a short term contract Call me when Kelly Hrudey questions his commitment.
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Old 04-27-2018, 11:25 AM   #122
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I still have no idea what Burke's role was with the team
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Old 04-27-2018, 11:27 AM   #123
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I still have no idea what Burke's role was with the team
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I still have no idea what Burke's role was with the team
To Mentor Treliving, be the barrier between hockey ops and KK. Or conversely, keep KK away from hockey ops.

Easier for Burkie to walk into Kings office and tell him their plan.

I think that's pretty much the gist of Burke's role while he was here.
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Old 04-27-2018, 11:30 AM   #126
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I mean, what kind of IDIOT wears a tie and doesn’t tie it?

That’s all you need to know
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Old 04-27-2018, 11:31 AM   #127
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I am not a fan of Brian Burke, but I thought his addition to the organization was a smart decision.

I have no strong feelings about this news, although I am hopeful that it signals a commitment from ownership to Treliving's autonomy in hockey operations.
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Old 04-27-2018, 11:32 AM   #128
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It was nice for the team to have a personality like Burke around, even though he didn't say much in recent years. I'm sure it gave the organization more presence league wide in some ways. Will be a tough guy to replace. Best of luck to him.
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Also. Not sure how heavy a hand Burkie had in charities but I'm sure that he provided a massive boost. 50 percent of his hockey life has been devoted to making sure his teams were represented in the community to their fullest.
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Edit: Rightfully called out by Textcredit.

I do know BB did a lot for the community supporting a number of different charities and was very generous with his time. For that I am thankful and hope that others will step in to fill that role in the city. All the best BB!!
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Old 04-27-2018, 11:51 AM   #131
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I really wish in threads like this we as a fan base took the high road.There is nothing wrong with questioning what the Flames look like without him here, or what the impacts may be, but the low brow shots at his contributions without understanding 90+% of his job description make us look petty and "Oilerish"...
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Old 04-27-2018, 11:57 AM   #132
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Although I don’t know exactly what he was doing over last few months, I’m sort of sad to see him go. Ken King has clearly failed in his role and should be walking the plank. He has bungled the arena issue so badly that he has destroyed a lot of the goodwill towards the team.
How has KK failed his role?
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Old 04-27-2018, 11:58 AM   #133
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I liked having him here. Thought he brought some edge and attitude to the organisation. Thought he brought some much needed legitimacy when the org need it. And he hired BT.

I think many underestimate what he brought.
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I think it says something about how professional you take your position, and how professional you project the company you represent.

Go to a job interview for a professional job with green spiked hair and see how that goes for you.

I don't think dismissing someone for being unprofessional gives him the upper hand.

Now, if Burke had done a magnificent job, people overlook his appearance. The fact he didn't makes his appearance an issue.
I guarantee you that his job status had absolutely nothing to do with his appearance, it is not an "issue". He is not an IT worker in a cubical, or a sales exec for that matter. Brian Burke is in an industry that when it comes to the media side of things is more like show business, the handling of his tie was like a costume or a prop.

Don Cherry does very much the same thing with his outfits, its all a prop, a show. I have seen Don a few times after the show, he goes back to the hotel in a regular suit with his costume in tow.

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I guarantee you that his job status had absolutely nothing to do with his appearance. He is not an IT worker in a cubical, or a sales exec for that matter.

Brian Burke is in really in an industry that is more like show business, the handling of his tie was like a costume or a prop. Don Cherry does very much the same thing with his outfits, its all a prop, a show.
Furthermore, if you've 'made it' in your industry nobody can say anything about it.
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Fair call-out. My first read of the thread, I read a number of the twitter comments to go with this thread. On re-read this thread is generally positive outside of the odd comment.
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Doesn't seem Burke did much but guess he was the buffer between Treliving and ownership or KK. Eliminating that buffer doesn't necessarily give Treliving more autonomy. In fact, it could easily give him less.
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I mean, what kind of IDIOT wears a tie and doesn’t tie it?

That’s all you need to know
It's amusing to me that you feel the need to call a stranger an idiot (in all caps no less) behind a wall of anonymity because of what he did with his tie.

It's blatantly obvious that the tie is a show piece. He wears it like that to rattle people. The NHL is in the entertainment industry. The fact that this small prop has gotten under your skin is just proof that it worked.

That's all you need to know.
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Don Cherry does very much the same thing with his outfits, its all a prop, a show. I have seen Don a few times after the show, he goes back to the hotel in a regular suit with his costume in tow.
I remember reading somewhere that most of the suits Don Cherry wears get donated or sold at auction and the proceeds go to charity?

I wonder if Brian's tieless ties are worth anything?
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Doesn't seem Burke did much but guess he was the buffer between Treliving and ownership or KK. Eliminating that buffer doesn't necessarily give Treliving more autonomy. In fact, it could easily give him less.
Therein is the hope. Treliving this season has very much become the undisputed public face of hockey operations, and what I meant to say was that my hope is for this to be a transparent depiction of what appears to be his role—free from micromanagement at higher levels.

I suspect one of the reasons Treliving purportedly worked hard to ensure his autonomy in his last contract negotiation was because he was preparing for this day. In the end, I don't see any reason to expect the worst on the heels of this announcement—especially in the light of numerous rumours regarding K. King's own uncertain future in the organization.
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