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Old 02-22-2016, 09:04 AM   #121
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Terrorists, murderers, and transgendered. The triangle of Evil.
Murdering, transgendered terrorist = Antichrist.
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Old 02-22-2016, 09:09 AM   #122
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Murdering, transgendered terrorist = Antichrist.
Come on now, that's not fair. T@T said he was an atheist, he didn't categorize transgenders with murderers and terrorists because of religious beliefs.

He did it because he's an #######.
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Old 02-22-2016, 09:12 AM   #123
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In theory, I like the idea of a third-gender washroom. When I lived in Ottawa, the YMCA close to my apartment had one, but I can't really recall it ever being used.
If I was transgender, I wouldn't dare touch a third-gender washroom, might as well have a freak-show carnival barker out front.
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Old 02-22-2016, 09:13 AM   #124
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Why do I get the impression that most people in this thread never even use public change rooms? The men's change room at the Southland Leisure centre has over 250 lockers. On a busy Saturday, they're almost all taken. At any given time, there might be 40 or more people getting changed. So if we want to allow everyone to change in private, we have two choices:

A) Break up the large public room into 12 smaller rooms and endure 15+ minute lineups to wait to use the change room.

B) Take out a gym and expand the change rooms to enable 24 smaller rooms. Actually, given the layout, that might not even be feasible.

The family change room for families with young kids is already semi-private, with about 6 private change areas. There's also a line-up to use them on busy days.

These sorts of practical considerations seem to get lost in all this grandiose ethical musing. As I mentioned earlier in this thread, we still don't have wheelchair accessibility to every public building in this country, because these public facilities are usually cash-strapped and have a tough time funding standard maintenance, let alone dropping 500k on renovations for specialized access. Re-designing and rebuilding the change rooms at a place like the Leisure Centre would cost many millions of dollars. And the number of people who would benefit from such expenditures absolutely is a consideration. Why wouldn't it be?
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Old 02-22-2016, 09:21 AM   #125
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If I was transgender, I wouldn't dare touch a third-gender washroom, might as well have a freak-show carnival barker out front.
Well, it was semi-private with many, many lockable shower and change stalls. I would say based purely on my own anecdotal experience walking past it, that it was primarily used by families, but honestly, it could have been used by anyone with very little stigma.
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Stalls don't need to be as large as a family change room. A restroom-sized stall is adequate for the purpose of shower/ getting changed.
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