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Old 02-21-2015, 03:50 PM   #121
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Old 02-21-2015, 03:52 PM   #122
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@SUNGilbertson: Interesting note from #Flames GM Brad Treliving — Sam Bennett has gained about 10 lb. of muscle while working out in Calgary.
His neck does look a tad bit thicker, or at least it seemed that way lately.
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Old 02-21-2015, 03:53 PM   #123
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If Bennett was selected by the Oilers he wouldn't have even had surgery. He would have continued to play through it, started the season with them, been in and out of the line up before finally realizing he needed surgery sometime in January.
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Old 02-21-2015, 03:56 PM   #124
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If Bennett was selected by the Oilers he wouldn't have even had surgery. He would have continued to play through it, started the season with them, been in and out of the line up before finally realizing he needed surgery sometime in January.
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Old 02-21-2015, 03:57 PM   #125
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Old 02-21-2015, 04:04 PM   #126
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Yeah yeah, E=NG, this is nothing new.

I hope Sam kills it in Kingston. I suspect he will be absolutely dominant after however long it takes him to get back to being 100% on the ice
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Old 02-21-2015, 04:45 PM   #127
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2 stupid questions:

1. Did he get paid his NHL salary up until now?
2. Did we burn a year off his entry level deal?

I am excited to see him in October.
1. He got paid his AHL Salary
2. No
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Old 02-21-2015, 04:53 PM   #128
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Seriously? I think he was being sarcastic or he is just making an opinion that is probably not that far from the truth. He doesn't need to have SOURCE.
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Old 02-21-2015, 05:04 PM   #129
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A little frustrating that this keeps coming up even months of discussion on this forum on the issue.
I am not pretending to be an expert and I was just mentioning what I read on TSN this morning. So no need to be chastise.. I wouldn't be even mention it if I didn't read from so-called expert TSN.
Here's the link, so give me a break.

http://www.tsn.ca/flames-send-bennet...enacs-1.212763

CALGARY - The Calgary Flames have sent Sam Bennett back to the Kingston Frontenacs of the Ontario Hockey League.
Bennett, the fourth pick in last year's draft, has been out all season following shoulder surgery.
The Flames had to choose whether to keep the young centre around in the NHL or send him back to junior.
Bennett is not eligible to play in the American Hockey League because he's 18 and played in the CHL.
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Old 02-21-2015, 05:05 PM   #130
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I am not pretending to be an expert and I was just mentioning what I read on TSN this morning. So no need to be chastise.. I wouldn't be even mention it if I didn't read from so-called expert TSN.
Here's the link, so give me a break.

http://www.tsn.ca/flames-send-bennet...enacs-1.212763

CALGARY - The Calgary Flames have sent Sam Bennett back to the Kingston Frontenacs of the Ontario Hockey League.
Bennett, the fourth pick in last year's draft, has been out all season following shoulder surgery.
The Flames had to choose whether to keep the young centre around in the NHL or send him back to junior.
Bennett is not eligible to play in the American Hockey League because he's 18 and played in the CHL.
Not eligible to play full time in the AHL, but he was eligible for a conditioning stint down there.
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Not eligible to play full time in the AHL, but he was eligible for a conditioning stint down there.
Thanks for clarifying. That makes sense.
There are so many changes in rules that I can't even keep up anymore. I don't spend lots of time reading every single thread here because I don't have the time or just stopped reading when people started talking about something not related to the thread.
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Old 02-21-2015, 05:23 PM   #132
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Bennett will be a Flame next season guaranteed. No one will stop him from making the team.
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Old 02-21-2015, 05:42 PM   #133
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Can you clarify that? Is that a weekly/monthly/season number? I would have assumed as a player on an NHL roster that he would have gotten an NHL wage, even though he wasn't playing any games.
Sorry I didn't see this before.

NHL CBA

http://cdn.agilitycms.com/nhlpacom/P...A_2013_CBA.pdf

Section 15.6 Deals with how players who are injured in training camp are paid. If a player has played 50 NHL games (including playoffs) in the previous season or is on a one way contract, they get their full NHL salary. Otherwise they get the paid based on the following (simplified, there are more details and nuances. Read the CBA for the full details);

Annual Blended Salary = ( (NHL Days last season)/(number of days in last season) * NHL salary) + (Minor League Days last season)/(number of days in last season) * Minor League Salary)

*important to note that Minor League Days is defined as as NHL Days subtracted from days in the season and not days actually loaned to a minor league team

Daily Rate paid to a player who was injured in training camp = Annual Blended Salary/Number of Days in this season


But in the case of Bennett 15.6 (e) is applicable.

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(e) Notwithstanding the foregoing, in the event the Player is not otherwise eligible to be Loaned to the Minor Leagues pursuant to an agreement between the National Hockey League and the Canadian Hockey League, the Annual Blended Salary will be calculated using the same
method described above except the Minor League Days will be multiplied by the amount provided for at Article 9.4 of the CBA as the maximum compensation payable to a Group 1 Player who is playing in the Major Juniors, rather than the Player's Paragraph 1 Minor League
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Section 9.4 defines the maximum an NHL team can pay a Major Junior player as the following:
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The maximum compensation payable to a Group 1 Player who is playing in the Major Juniors shall be U.S. $10,500 per League Year.
Therefore for Sam Bennett

Annual Blended salary = ( (0 NHL days)/187 days * $832.50k) + ( (187 minor league days/187 days * $10.5k)) = $10.5k

Daily rate = $10.5k/187 = $56.15 USD

So Sam Bennett got paid $56.15 USD for every day he was in Calgary.

136 days in Calgary = $7636.40

But don't worry as pointed out previously in the thread he also has a nice $92,500 USD signing bonus from the summer.
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Old 02-21-2015, 05:47 PM   #134
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No problem.. I really should have posted it in green.
No, no you shouldn't have. Green text demeans us all.
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Old 02-21-2015, 06:12 PM   #135
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You could ask RNH or Sheldon Souray about it. Just off the top of my head, I'm sure there's more.
Don't get injured if you're a big signing for the Oilers. The hype machine comes before all.

Anyway, probably tough for Sam to go back after spending so much time around the Flames but I think it'll be best for him long term. Can't wait to see him earn a spot next season.
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Old 02-21-2015, 06:14 PM   #136
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I am not pretending to be an expert and I was just mentioning what I read on TSN this morning. So no need to be chastise.. I wouldn't be even mention it if I didn't read from so-called expert TSN.
Here's the link, so give me a break.

http://www.tsn.ca/flames-send-bennet...enacs-1.212763

CALGARY - The Calgary Flames have sent Sam Bennett back to the Kingston Frontenacs of the Ontario Hockey League.
Bennett, the fourth pick in last year's draft, has been out all season following shoulder surgery.
The Flames had to choose whether to keep the young centre around in the NHL or send him back to junior.
Bennett is not eligible to play in the American Hockey League because he's 18 and played in the CHL.
It's just that there is quite literally a hundred posts scattered throughout this thread on the subject

Edit: other Bennett threads sorry
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Old 02-21-2015, 06:29 PM   #137
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I wonder why the Flames didn't keep Bennett in Calgary one more day. Let him be a part of the poker tournament so he can feel part of the team. He's not going to play tonight or tomorrow anyway.
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Old 02-21-2015, 06:42 PM   #138
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This is the right move. I am feeling very secure that we have a pragmatic GM who continues to show his intelligence and patience and follow a plan of progression.
Sam Bennett is looking to be a keystone towards the future success of our Calgary Flames.
I am confident he will find his way onto the roster next year.
Flames management should keep on keeping on as far as I am concerned.
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I am not pretending to be an expert and I was just mentioning what I read on TSN this morning. So no need to be chastise.. I wouldn't be even mention it if I didn't read from so-called expert TSN.
Here's the link, so give me a break.

http://www.tsn.ca/flames-send-bennet...enacs-1.212763

CALGARY - The Calgary Flames have sent Sam Bennett back to the Kingston Frontenacs of the Ontario Hockey League.
Bennett, the fourth pick in last year's draft, has been out all season following shoulder surgery.
The Flames had to choose whether to keep the young centre around in the NHL or send him back to junior.
Bennett is not eligible to play in the American Hockey League because he's 18 and played in the CHL.
It wasn't meant as a comment on you. Just a general statement on something that was annoying throughout the Bennett surgery thread.

People would talk about the conditioning stint in the AHL and then every so often someone would pipe in claiming he couldn't be sent to the AHL. It was a cycle that repeated every week or so (at least it felt like it did).
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