Do Nice Guys finish last?

[Kybosh]

My personal theory is that women always want a "project". They want a guy that has some sort of problem (big or little problem, doesn't matter) for them to "fix". If a guy looks like he has it all figured out without a woman, they tell themselves that said guy has no need of her. Even though girls say they don't want to be your mother, I think that on some subconscious level they want just that.

[doozwimp]

Originally Posted by Cowboy89

You can easily be a nice guy and not finish last. The key is being aloof. Do exactly as women do and make it bloody difficult for them to get into your world, and even when they do elevate to gf status, make subtle signs and gestures that dating you is a priviledge as opposed to a right. I think it comes back to a self-respect thing as opposed to a 'good guy/bad guy' thing. My rule of thumb is never do anything for a woman that you wouldn't do for a best friend (outside of the bedroom of course ). If you stay true to that rule, a girl will never ever think of you as a doormat or an uninteresting 'nice guy.' Simple as that and you don't have to resort to staging run-ins with the law, getting a tatoo, picking fights in bars, or buying a Harley to prove your badboy street cred.

I agree with this...there is a difference to being respectful and being whipped.

[habernac]

LOL @ short guys finishing last. We just punch you tall #$%!ers in the throat.

;-)

[CrusaderPi]

Originally Posted by habernac

LOL @ short guys finishing last. We just punch you tall #$%!ers in the throat.

;-)

You bringing a step ladder to the fight?

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by habernac

LOL @ short guys finishing last. We just punch you tall #$%!ers in the throat.

;-)

pffft the only thing you'll be hitting is empty air after I put my hand on top of your head and keep you at arms length swinging away until your exhausted.

And besides short guys or short people isn't the politically correct term, they prefer to be called circus folk.

[MissKat]

Good guys definitely always finish last.

The thing with women, that bothers me the most is that too many are in abusive relationships. And on top of that, arent able to get themselves out of it - either from lack of self esteem or just not having the support from family and peers. You guys have to realize that, even though a lot of these women are living unhappy lives, that its their choice to begin with and its up to them to want to change. 9/10 times, this is the case where they just cant get themselves out of it, regardless of what kind of support they have around them.

Its sad, infact very sad to see and hear stories like this everyday, all the time. But theres only so much we can do right?

[habernac]

Originally Posted by CaptainCrunch

pffft the only thing you'll be hitting is empty air after I put my hand on top of your head and keep you at arms length swinging away until your exhausted.

And besides short guys or short people isn't the politically correct term, they prefer to be called dwarfs.

Fixed.

[LChoy]

Originally Posted by MissKat

Good guys definitely always finish last.

The thing with women, that bothers me the most is that too many are in abusive relationships. And on top of that, arent able to get themselves out of it - either from lack of self esteem or just not having the support from family and peers. You guys have to realize that, even though a lot of these women are living unhappy lives, that its their choice to begin with and its up to them to want to change. 9/10 times, this is the case where they just cant get themselves out of it, regardless of what kind of support they have around them.

Its sad, infact very sad to see and hear stories like this everyday, all the time. But theres only so much we can do right?

In unrelated news, Rihanna and Chris brown are rumoured to be recording a duet together...

[CrusaderPi]

Originally Posted by Lchoy

In unrelated news, Rihanna and Chris brown are rumoured to be recording a duet together...

Awwww that's sweet. If those two kids can make it, it gives me hope for everyone.

[troutman]

For a certain number of women, nothing seems so intriguing as being ignored. They will do everything to get the attention of the aloof man.

[Eastern Girl]

Originally Posted by MissKat

Good guys definitely always finish last.

The thing with women, that bothers me the most is that too many are in abusive relationships. And on top of that, arent able to get themselves out of it - either from lack of self esteem or just not having the support from family and peers. You guys have to realize that, even though a lot of these women are living unhappy lives, that its their choice to begin with and its up to them to want to change. 9/10 times, this is the case where they just cant get themselves out of it, regardless of what kind of support they have around them.

Its sad, infact very sad to see and hear stories like this everyday, all the time. But theres only so much we can do right?

I've never been in an abusive relationship, but have done a lot of volunteering for domestic violence organizations and have done stories about the issue. One thing to note is that abusers tend to isolate the person they are abusing, they systematically cut them off from friends and family so that once the person reaches the point of realizing they are in real danger and things aren't going to change, they are almost completely dependent on their abuser.

Unfortunately, it's not as simple and packing a bag and walking away. It's really easy for people to say it wouldn't happen to them or what not, but it's not a black and white situation.

Originally Posted by troutman

For a certain number of women, nothing seems so intriguing as being ignored. They will do everything to get the attention of the aloof man.

The same goes for a certain number of men as well, seeking the attention of the aloof woman. I think it has to do with pride, like "how dare this person not find me desirable! Perhaps if I follow them around like a puppydog they will see my charms."

[kermitology]

I've probably tried a little too hard in the past. But I figure I'll get something eventually.

I'm smart, make good money, own a home, am awesome.

I've got a burning desire to find someone and settle down, but I've decided to push that feeling to the back burner and take a wait and see approach.

The only problem is that with the field I'm in, and my circle of friends all being in long term relationships meeting people is a pain in the ass.

[burn_this_city]

Everyone wants what they can't have. The aloof person gives off the impression you arent good enough to gain their attention.

[MissKat]

Originally Posted by Eastern Girl

I've never been in an abusive relationship, but have done a lot of volunteering for domestic violence organizations and have done stories about the issue. One thing to note is that abusers tend to isolate the person they are abusing, they systematically cut them off from friends and family so that once the person reaches the point of realizing they are in real danger and things aren't going to change, they are almost completely dependent on their abuser.

Unfortunately, it's not as simple and packing a bag and walking away. It's really easy for people to say it wouldn't happen to them or what not, but it's not a black and white situation.

The same goes for a certain number of men as well, seeking the attention of the aloof woman. I think it has to do with pride, like "how dare this person not find me desirable! Perhaps if I follow them around like a puppydog they will see my charms."

Well of course women in abusive relationships is not a black and white picture. All I was saying is that, no matter what kind of support they have, no matter how old they are, no matter the time of day - its all up to the woman in wanting to change. I believe anyone can overcome anything, it takes an unbelievable amount of courage and strength. But if the girl in the abusive RL isnt willing to completely open up and accept help from all peers and family, its just not going to work out in the big picture.

[Agamemnon]

Nice guys definitely finish last. They're boring... if you want a slave, buy one. If you want a boyfriend, you're certainly not looking for the guy who constantly wants to do 'whatever you want to do' (my opinion at least... maybe some chicks are).

[shinyDark]

Originally Posted by 4X4

Losers finish last. Guys that are too afraid to talk to a girl finish last. Guys that try to manipulate a girl into liking them by showing off how nice they are finish last.
Guys who act normal around girls, whether they're attracted to the girl or not, get girls.

EXACTLY!!! Just be yourself for the love of Pete!

[STeeLy]

Originally Posted by shinyDark

EXACTLY!!! Just be yourself for the love of Pete!

I've followed that advice too... still hasn't gotten me anywhere

[shinyDark]

Originally Posted by STeeLy

I've followed that advice too... still hasn't gotten me anywhere

I truly believe that being yourself is the most important thing, & be confident about it. You are who you are & if some chick can't accept that & just wants to change you then she's gotta go - she ain't worth it.
The "bad guys" may be fun & exciting for a bit but then we eventually figure out that they're just an a#*hole. Unfortunately it takes some of us longer than others to figure that out...

[rubecube]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

Nice guys finish third behind a-holes and PR's

Short guys finish last.

It has been proven.

So true. I've stopped even thinking of going up to women who are taller than me (I'm 5'8"). Just not worth it.

[rubecube]

I'm a bad boy. I totally correct my girlfriend's grammar all the time.