I read somewhere that currently they are free, but they will be charging for it in the future.
Pretty sure someone posted it on this site, I will try to find it.
The oft-linked Oatmeal comic about owning a Tesla claims that charging at their stations will always be free.
I suspect Tesla's business plan with that is two-fold:
1) Use free charging as a way to entice more people to buy their cars
2) Cover costs (or make a small profit) by selling coffee and other amenities at the charging stations
I hope Tesla opens a Calgary dealer. I will be the first guy in line with an application. They are the future, and everyone will be playing catch up within 15 years.
In 15 years, you might not even have people driving cars.
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I know a model s owner in Ontario he loves it and has this after driving an m3, model S was about 15k less (as per him) and of coarse no gas.
I'd seriously consider this if they can fix a couple of things-
1 what is the price going to be in Canada? Right now Telsa's dot qualify for free trade to Canada (6.1% tariff added) because too many of its components are made over seas (batteries).
2- will they have faster charges in next few years, will they have better range
3- will there be large scale charging stations. IE at current gas stations like BC, at malls, groceries etc
4 - will it be reliable (I assume it will be but have to know there won't be kinks)
Currently driving a 328, paying about 300/month on gas, car itself paid off.
1 what is the price going to be in Canada? Right now Telsa's dot qualify for free trade to Canada (6.1% tariff added) because too many of its components are made over seas (batteries).
The batteries for this new model will be made in the US at tesla's new battery "gigafactory". Hopefully enough will be made in the US to qualify it under Nafta, but we will see.
I know they have been having a few issues with their drivetrain motors, but they have a couple years to figure that out before this model comes out.
Faster charges and better range will be incremental improvements if any at all unless a game changing battery tech becomes commercially viable. There's been lots of discoveries and prototypes and such, but almost everyone still uses Lithium Ion or NiMH. Better battery tech is holding back a lot of things, not just electric cars.
Tesla has a map where they're planning supercharger stations. Regular EV stations like in BC, dunno if that'll happen in Alberta nearly as fast
Consumer Reports puts reliability from Excellent to Average depending on the year, Edmund's article was posted earlier, they had lots of issues with theirs... it's a new car maker figuring out how to make cars, combined with a car that's got far fewer moving parts than most, between the two they're not horrible but not the most reliable cars either.
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Here's a dumb question- why not have two batteries then you can go twice as far?
Cost, weight and volume. The more cells you add it adds significant cost, the weight of the batteries reduce the range as the vehicle has to do more work to move it, and there is only so much space on board.
(all with existing viable battery chemistries)
There are some new battery chemistries being investigated but none are within 3-5 years of being commercially viable. Some of them even propose to use oxygen from the surrounding area as a charge mechanism.
On a side note, I am not sure an electric vehicle is more enviornmentally friendly when you consider the entire process. (including the more costly to produce materials needed) but I think its great. Can you imagine being downtown and it is quiet and not smelly?
If all the pollution is concentrated in major generation plants it is easier to control/reduce it. (I think..)
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Bear in mind the batteries lose range during their life, about 10% a year! by year three or four your going to want to swap out the old pack and put in new to get usable mileage! and that is not a cheap job! personally I'm not wanting a car with a guarenteed $7000 maintenance job very three years
interesting. got a link? not trying to challenge you or anything, just curious.
they should be in spec from -40C-150C to 6 sigma
Panosonic Ncr18650A can only handle up 100c . On the one I'm holding it (panosonic ncr 18650 B ) Basically the same battery . instead of 3100mah its a newer 3700 mah says do not heat above 212f.
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Bear in mind the batteries lose range during their life, about 10% a year! by year three or four your going to want to swap out the old pack and put in new to get usable mileage! and that is not a cheap job! personally I'm not wanting a car with a guarenteed $7000 maintenance job very three years
Bear in mind the batteries lose range during their life, about 10% a year! by year three or four your going to want to swap out the old pack and put in new to get usable mileage! and that is not a cheap job! personally I'm not wanting a car with a guarenteed $7000 maintenance job very three years
Battery packs are guaranteed for 8 yrs or 200k. They are expected to retain 80% of their capacity by that time.
Faster charges and better range will be incremental improvements if any at all unless a game changing battery tech becomes commercially viable. There's been lots of discoveries and prototypes and such, but almost everyone still uses Lithium Ion or NiMH. Better battery tech is holding back a lot of things, not just electric cars.
Tesla has a map where they're planning supercharger stations. Regular EV stations like in BC, dunno if that'll happen in Alberta nearly as fast
Consumer Reports puts reliability from Excellent to Average depending on the year, Edmund's article was posted earlier, they had lots of issues with theirs... it's a new car maker figuring out how to make cars, combined with a car that's got far fewer moving parts than most, between the two they're not horrible but not the most reliable cars either.
You don't have to be a new company to still be trying to figure out how to make cars properly, just as GM.
Really cool news, I'd love to take a look at one when they are available in Canada.
