Hamas Military Leader Killed (Here we go again...)

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

You brought up Lebanon not me, so let's focus on that.

Your post said that:



Human Rights, while most likely better in Lebanon than other places in the region are far from "fine".

No, actually you brought up the idea that having soldiers or military personnel charged with human rights complaints means that the country isn't a place where human rights are offered. I countered with America to destroy your notion.



This is the problem with people watching too much Fox News. Lebanon is a democracy with several Christians in the government and the people of Lebanon get treated fairly by their government. Human rights in Lebanon is not an issue. They've got other internal issues but human rights isn't one.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Iginla

No, actually you brought up the idea that having soldiers or military personnel charged with human rights complaints means that the country isn't a place where human rights are offered. I countered with America to destroy your notion.



This is the problem with people watching too much Fox News. Lebanon is a democracy with several Christians in the government and the people of Lebanon get treated fairly by their government. Human rights in Lebanon is not an issue. They've got other internal issues but human rights isn't one.

So i guess all those articles about abuse to forgeign works and refugees are made up, eh? As I saide, while better than most, Lebanon has Human Rights issues. To ignore that is foolish.

It was also enjoyable that when asked a question you appear to justify Lebanon's actions based on another countries actions....

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

So i guess all those articles about abuse to forgeign works and refugees are made up, eh? As I saide, while better than most, Lebanon has Human Rights issues. To ignore that is foolish.

It was also enjoyable that when asked a question you appear to justify Lebanon's actions based on another countries actions....

Apparently you have reading comprehension problems. I never justified any actions.

I was simply replying to NHB's post stating that Israel is the only country in the region that offers human rights to their citizens, until you got all butt hurt about the previous banned user thread and decided you'd start an argument over something you know little about.

[Nyah]

Originally Posted by polak

In all honesty that region is so messed up. Israel is the only glimmering light as far as human rights go (for its own people at least).

Messed up is an understatement. I don't think any country over there gets a pass when it comes to human rights violations. Including Israel.

I love living in Canada.

[PIMking]

There is a bright spot in all of this, that being, we get to see more hot IDF chicks

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Iginla

Apparently you have reading comprehension problems. I never justified any actions.

I was simply replying to NHB's post stating that Israel is the only country in the region that offers human rights to their citizens, until you got all butt hurt about the previous banned user thread and decided you'd start an argument over something you know little about.

I know that they treat their refugees poorly as they do other persons.

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

I know that they treat their refugees poorly as they do other persons.

The conversation was about their own people. Not sure why you keep bringing up refugees and foreign workers.

[polak]

Originally Posted by PIMking

There is a bright spot in all of this, that being, we get to see more hot IDF chicks

Seriously.

They must have the sexiest military ever. I'd go Pocahontas/Fern Gully/Avatar all over that if we ever got into war with them.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Iginla

The conversation was about their own people. Not sure why you keep bringing up refugees and foreign workers.

hahaha yet you bring up guantanamo bay......

[PIMking]

Originally Posted by polak

Seriously.

They must have the sexiest military ever. I'd go Pocahontas/Fern Gully/Avatar all over that if we ever got into war with them.

It's sad, if someone no matter skin color, sex, or sexual orientation wants to defend the country they should be allowed

[puckluck2]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

hahaha yet you bring up guantanamo bay......

I brought that up because YOU brought up the military and soldiers having human rights complaints against them. The initial conversation which you weren't part of was about how the country treats their own people until you widened the goal posts and I played along your little game. You just don't "get it".

[Fluffy Bunnies]

The BS in this region has been going for so long its lost all meaning anymore.

Let them butcher each other. Thats what they want. They are so entrenched in their hate for each other, neither could tell you what the root cause of this conflict was. Nobody can. So just let them strap on the gloves and get in the ring.

They are both wrong.

Israel is doing precisely what Nazi Germany did 75 years ago. They segregate the population, swallow up the surrounding space for "settlements" (Lebensraum) and do it all in the name of survival. They herd people into settlement camps (concentration) and let them live in their squalor. Through media they objectify and de-humanize the Palestinians; a tactic the Nazis perfected when it came to anti-Jewish propaganda.
The Palestinians brainwash their youth into strapping bombs to their chest and blowing themselves up in public places, murdering innocent people. They use religion as their excuse and "guiding principle".

Im past attempting to care about who is right and who is wrong. Just let the blood flow.

PS: The US needs to keep its nose out of this and stop supplying Israel with weapons and money. Thats also a large part of the problem.

[polak]

Canada and the natives is the samething. We segregated them, portrayed them as savages in the media, put them into residential schools... etc.

Our situation maybe peaceful now, but if we came here in the 40's it would probably be just as turbulent and some of their living conditions are only marginly better then those in Gaza. Don't forget how terribly we treated the native population when we first got here either. Probably worse than Israel.

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by Iginla

I brought that up because YOU brought up the military and soldiers having human rights complaints against them. The initial conversation which you weren't part of was about how the country treats their own people until you widened the goal posts and I played along your little game. You just don't "get it".

So form your posts, it appears that as long as a country treats it's citizen's well then that is all good. A country's record on how it treat all peoples with in their borders has nothing to do with the picture. The declination on your moral compass seems to be off.

Good "luck" with that.

[crazy_eoj]

Originally Posted by Fluffy Bunnies

The BS in this region has been going for so long its lost all meaning anymore.

Let them butcher each other. Thats what they want. They are so entrenched in their hate for each other, neither could tell you what the root cause of this conflict was. Nobody can. So just let them strap on the gloves and get in the ring.

They are both wrong.

Israel is doing precisely what Nazi Germany did 75 years ago. They segregate the population, swallow up the surrounding space for "settlements" (Lebensraum) and do it all in the name of survival. They herd people into settlement camps (concentration) and let them live in their squalor. Through media they objectify and de-humanize the Palestinians; a tactic the Nazis perfected when it came to anti-Jewish propaganda.
The Palestinians brainwash their youth into strapping bombs to their chest and blowing themselves up in public places, murdering innocent people. They use religion as their excuse and "guiding principle".

Im past attempting to care about who is right and who is wrong. Just let the blood flow.

PS: The US needs to keep its nose out of this and stop supplying Israel with weapons and money. Thats also a large part of the problem.

That's really quite a hateful and ignorant post.

Israel certainly doesn't want to exterminate Palestinians, in fact it's Hamas' stated goal to exterminate the jews.. Moreover, arabs (including palestinians) living in Israel have the highest quality of life out of any in the area. Many work in Israel and many have access to Isreali health care.

Your comparison to the Nazi's is, quite frankly, shocking.

[Coys1882]

I'm pretty confident that there probably isn't a good time or argument to ever compare someone/something to Hitler and the Nazis.

[CaptainCrunch]

Originally Posted by Fluffy Bunnies

The BS in this region has been going for so long its lost all meaning anymore.

Let them butcher each other. Thats what they want. They are so entrenched in their hate for each other, neither could tell you what the root cause of this conflict was. Nobody can. So just let them strap on the gloves and get in the ring.

They are both wrong.

Israel is doing precisely what Nazi Germany did 75 years ago. They segregate the population, swallow up the surrounding space for "settlements" (Lebensraum) and do it all in the name of survival. They herd people into settlement camps (concentration) and let them live in their squalor. Through media they objectify and de-humanize the Palestinians; a tactic the Nazis perfected when it came to anti-Jewish propaganda.
The Palestinians brainwash their youth into strapping bombs to their chest and blowing themselves up in public places, murdering innocent people. They use religion as their excuse and "guiding principle".

Im past attempting to care about who is right and who is wrong. Just let the blood flow.

PS: The US needs to keep its nose out of this and stop supplying Israel with weapons and money. Thats also a large part of the problem.

Wow, I wouldn't even know where to start with your post.

As for the PS, you do understand that Israel is pretty much the only nation that's pretty much friendly to the States, they're surrounded by nations some of which has never recognized Israel, and to the worst points talked fondly about exterminating Israel.

They've been constantly attached since their inception by various states and alliances.

They've been bombarded by a Terrorist group who's definition of a cease fire is "Time to reload for the next attacks"

People wonder why Israel has a fortress mentallity and a defense first through offense mentallity.

Look at the history of that state, they've basically been at war more then they've been at peace and the majority of those wars have been wars of agression against them.

Due to not being able to protect themselves before their founding, more then 6 million of them were turned into basically air pollution (some where some one is saying, I knew the Jews caused global warming, to the blogoshere), they've become very Israel first and very defense through offense first because of that.

Until their safety in the region can be recognized and guaranteed you won't have peace period and they will continue to have a fight for survival mode.

Oh and to your post, are you also stating that the American's should cut off all funding to the area? Including the 1.5 billion that goes to Egypt even though its run by the Muslim Brotherhood and pretty notorious anti Jewish and Anti American group. How about the about $600 million in aid that America sends to Palestine as economic aid, should they cut that off too?

And comparing Israel to Nazi Germany is not only completely igonorant but shows that you have no idea what your talking about.

Oh and let the blood flow? That's nice, lets advocate a bloody war where civillians on both sides get caught in the middle and slaughtered whole sale.

Some of your posts int he Poppy Thread were outright ignorant and offensive, but you've pretty much proven in this thread that it wasn't an accidental mis quote you actually are a pretty ignorant and hate filled person.

[Flabbibulin]

Originally Posted by Fluffy Bunnies

Israel is doing precisely what Nazi Germany did 75 years ago. They segregate the population, swallow up the surrounding space for "settlements" (Lebensraum) and do it all in the name of survival. They herd people into settlement camps (concentration) and let them live in their squalor. Through media they objectify and de-humanize the Palestinians; a tactic the Nazis perfected when it came to anti-Jewish propaganda.

Possibly the most embarrassing thing I have ever read on CP

[polak]

Jerusulem was targetted by Gaza for the first time ever today.

[Fluffy Bunnies]

Just because you dont like my opinion doesnt mean it doesnt have truth in it. I compare present day Israel to Nazi Germany because its worth the comparison; where do you think they learned those tactics?

As for me being ignorant and hate filled, believe what you want. I am neither of those. But what I would say is that anyone who blindly chooses Israel is purposely ignoring the atrocities they are commiting. And to ignore that is hateful.

As for the militant Palestinians, they arent in the right either. But if someone came along and kicked me out of my home, so they could "settle" the area, Id be pretty pissed about it too. And I would fight the occupiers. So would all of you.