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Old 10-19-2015, 10:44 PM   #801
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Probably regroup and come back in 2019 just like the liberals did this year after being decimated.

The difference is the CPC wasn't decimated. They still have 100+ seats.
Exactly. The CPC still has a decent opposition. It's not like they are going to have to come back from 30 seats like the Liberals did.

The last Liberal government in this country led over some pretty prosperous years and Justin Trudeau's influences are more from that era than from his father's. He is not the same person as his father and he knows that the NEP was a terrible decision.

Alberta's economy has been having challenges lately even with Harper and the CPC leading. It has more to do with external factors than anything. An economically flourishing Alberta is good for the country and Trudeau will work on that. It would be political suicide not to at this point.
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:45 PM   #802
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:45 PM   #803
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Now let's hear from Joe Clarke, the backup goalie of former Prime Ministers.
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:45 PM   #804
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Duceppe lost his seat. To the NDP.

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Old 10-19-2015, 10:45 PM   #805
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man, I missed this Craig Oliver thing ... what the hell happened?
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:45 PM   #806
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Ralph Goodale is still in politics(?) Unbelievable.

Next thing you are going to tell me is that Stephane Dion is still in politics.
I wonder what he gets in cabinet this time. Agriculture again would be good.

If Hehr gets in I wonder if he could get the cities role or if he'll be given just a token role.
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He has the lead by a Kent hair...
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:46 PM   #808
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When seats were reallocated in 2011:

http://www.elections.ca/content.aspx...t=index&lang=e

Alberta -> 3.78 million people = 10.9% of the population (34.49 million)
Alberta -> 34/338 seats = ~10.0% of the seats

Ontario -> 13.37 million people = 38.8% of the population
Ontario -> 121/338 seats = ~35.8% of the seats

Now if Alberta has grown since then, it will have to be considered when the seats are reallocated, but it isn't realistic to do it just before every election.
Interesting, but even when you use 2011 numbers Aberta still has more people/district.
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:46 PM   #809
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lots of close races, there is a crazy one in quebec. Salaberry-Suroit

NDP incumbant 15372
Liberal 15187
Bloc 13957

230/271
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:46 PM   #810
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Great, 1, 2 or maybe even 3 doesnt really change the picture all that much.

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1 by definition is infinitely more then 0.

I love the change in Calgary, multiple parties in Calgary means politicians will pander for our vote in future elections as they actually stand a chance, hopefully in the form of policies which we favor.
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Why would the ndp insider wear Tory blue.
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:47 PM   #812
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Guess I better bring a hard hat to work tomorrow because THE SKY IS FALLING! Everyone relax, the sun will still rise tomorrow.
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:48 PM   #813
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Interesting, but even when you use 2011 numbers Aberta still has more people/district.
Don't look at Atlantic Canada if you upset about Ontario. And don't look at pei if you are upset about Atlantic Canada.
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My biggest gets from this election is that Harper is finally gone (obviously), and that he lost bad enough that the conservatives will need to do some serious reorganization. Hopefully that means a more moderate tone from the party instead of the fear and rhetoric of the past 9 years

As for Trudeau, I feel a lot better about him now than I did before the election. He ran a fantastic campaign and smartly countered everything the conservatives threw at him, that has to count for something towards his capability. If he starts undoing some of the major damage that Harper has done over the years (long census form, slashing scientific research funding, make gov't more transparent) and follow through on his promise to reform the FPTP system then he'll have my vote in the future
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:49 PM   #815
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@news_ian: A shot of the internal numbers @kenthehr supporters are seeing as they come in from polls #yyccentre #elxn42 https://t.co/Na1SHgIzKm

This has Kent quite a bit ahead
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:49 PM   #816
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Corey Hogan@coreyhogan4m4 minutes ago
#CBC is gonna be retracting that Calgary Confederation call pretty quickly. #elxn42 #yycconfed

In the know guy.

Centre and Confederation might come down to the special ballots, recounts, etc.
My vote for Matt Grant is a Special Ballot
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:50 PM   #817
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55% is so far, so it'll rise up as the final 26% of polls are counted. I'd expect 70% or so.
It won't go much over 60%. Lower than any other year.

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Old 10-19-2015, 10:52 PM   #818
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Surprised to hear the Confederation retraction. I've been watching the numbers, and there hasn't been any real movement in the spread... been about 1000-1300 for a while. Guess I can't shut it down yet.
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man, I missed this Craig Oliver thing ... what the hell happened?
Went on a rant essentially calling Harper a racist divisive dictator. There was even an accidental comment from someone whose mic was accidentally on saying "oh geez" in the middle of it. Then Lisa Laflamme pretty much cut him off sheepishly saying "Good points" and throwing it to one of her panelists.
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Old 10-19-2015, 10:52 PM   #820
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Yeah it sucks, but it's really just a natural consequence of a province electing MPs from a single party at a rate that would leave the Communist Party of the USSR envious. Any time that happens consistently you're going to be left out of any non-Conservative governments. Just like Atlantic Canada largely gets left out of Conservative governments and many parts of BC where the NDP is strong will never have any kind of representation in ruling parties.
This is very true, and its important that this kind of thing happens in Alberta, but at the present moment it doesnt help all that much.

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1 by definition is infinitely more then 0.

I love the change in Calgary, multiple parties in Calgary means politicians will pander for our vote in future elections as they actually stand a chance, hopefully in the form of policies which we favor.
Well, while also true, in terms of influencing policy 1 is exactly as effective as 0.

All I'm saying is that in the context of the past Provincial Election and now this we as Albertans are kind of left in Limbo.
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