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					Originally Posted by  doctajones428
					 
				 
				It's not like our cup winning goalies are much better. 
 
Fluery has been hot garbage in the playoffs since winning the cup. 
Ward has been mediocre at best for many years now and hasn't seen the playoffs since 2009. 
Brodeur was horrible at the 2010 Olympics. 
Giguire is a back up at most. 
Crawford is on arguably the best team in the league and is putting up much lower numbers than Luongo and Price. 
			
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				Who the hell would you take instead? Fluery and Crawford? 
			
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Yes, Crawford is the #1 guy and is better than Loserongo. I have said that Fleury is like Jekyll and Hyde and I understand why he wasn't picked. Brodeur is done for the Olympics but I do chuckle that he made to the SC Finals a year after the Canucks run. I don't see Luongo lasting that long. You're right that Ward hasn't been in a playoff game for 4 years and but he has yet to lose a game 7. I picked Mike Smith to be the 3rd goalie.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-09-2014, 04:41 AM
			
			
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			Why does Canada have 1 captain and 3 assistant captains? I believe every other country goes 1 + 2? Correct me if I'm wrong though
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-09-2014, 04:46 AM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  ChuckieNZ
					 
				 
				Except that Luongo was the starting goaltender in the 2010 gold medal performance, and did perform then when it counted. 
			
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He did let in the game tying goal with 25 seconds left that sent the game to overtime. That is something Fleury didn't do in game 7 of the 2009 Finals and helped his team hang on to the 1 goal lead.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-09-2014, 04:48 AM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  vilzeh
					 
				 
				Why does Canada have 1 captain and 3 assistant captains? I believe every other country goes 1 + 2? Correct me if I'm wrong though 
			
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That also happened 4 years ago. Pronger, Iginla, and Crosby were the alternate captains. The 2006 and 2002 teams also had 4 As and the 1998 team had 3 As. The 2010 US team had 4 alternate captains. Rafalski, Suter, Brown, and Parise.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-09-2014, 04:49 AM
			
			
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			I don't want to be on Luongo“s side but, the defense didn't play that well either on that tying goal. The pressure was huge, Kane's shot was pretty surprising, and no one cleared that rebound. Can't remember at all how the 1st goal was made though on him.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-09-2014, 04:50 AM
			
			
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				The 2010 US team had 4 alternate captains. Rafalski, Suter, Brown, and Parise. 
			
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Alright, thanks, so, is there a limit how many A's you can have? I believe Finland's always gone 1+2, if my memory serves, probably doesn't.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-09-2014, 05:03 AM
			
			
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				Alright, thanks, so, is there a limit how many A's you can have? I believe Finland's always gone 1+2, if my memory serves, probably doesn't. 
			
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Yep, Finland along with the other Scandinavian and European nations do the 1+2. I don't think there's a limit but it does seem strange that Canada and the USA are the only ones doing that.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-09-2014, 05:09 AM
			
			
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In 2002 it was Ed Belfour.  Hard to argue. 
 
This year Smith. 
			
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Smith is a product of a system like Bryzgalov before him.  And the Fernandez/Roloson duo under Lemaire in Minny.  Sv% under stifling systems.  Colour me skeptical.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-09-2014, 05:28 AM
			
			
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				Can't remember at all how the 1st goal was made though on him. 
			
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Checked a youtube highlight, Kane took a shot that Kesler tipped in. Kesler snuck through the defense.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-09-2014, 04:35 PM
			
			
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					Originally Posted by  Magnum PEI
					 
				 
				Goalie shootout stats are a bit worrisome. 
  
  
Price .699 
Luongo .669 
Smith .622 
  
Lundqvist .757 
Varlamov .750 
Niemi .743 
Halak .726 
Lehtonen .724 
Miller .713 
Quick .705 
Hiller .700 
Rask .674 
Bobrovsky .632 
Pavelec .624 
  
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Good chance they start Rask, but Niemi is having a solid year as well so it's tough to say.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-09-2014, 04:42 PM
			
			
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			I would think Rask is who they have in mind, but all will get at least one game and you play the hot hand.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-09-2014, 05:29 PM
			
			
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			The Flames Twitter feed just said that Gio is on standby for Socchi.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-09-2014, 06:53 PM
			
			
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				Crosby is the captain.  Period. 
 
Hard to be St Louis when your spot is given to a teammate with a broken leg, who you helped create.  He's like Mark Recchi - what more can he do?  Canada is just too deep. 
 
Hope he's the first forward alternate.  Gio obviously for D. 
 
Thought Duhatschek had a interesting pre announcement comment Re: goalies.  3rd guy is there for a single circumstance.  If in the gold medal game, your #1 was injured and your #2 was sick you need a guy who can come off the bench ice cold, with zero tourney experience and steal the game. I.e. the 3rd guy is picked based on competitive fire. 
 
In 2002 it was Ed Belfour.  Hard to argue. 
 
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I would think Harding might be the better option then, having been a backup for most of his career...
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-09-2014, 07:01 PM
			
			
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				I would think Harding might be the better option then, having been a backup for most of his career... 
			
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Harding is struggling with his MS treatment.  Been going on and off IR the last few months
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-09-2014, 07:14 PM
			
			
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				Harding is struggling with his MS treatment.  Been going on and off IR the last few months 
			
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Harding is going thru real adversity. Hope they get the meds sorted out, correctly.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-09-2014, 07:15 PM
			
			
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				The Flames Twitter feed just said that Gio is on standby for Socchi. 
			
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Canada probably as 3 or so D on standby. Same for forwards and likely 1-2 in net.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			01-09-2014, 07:21 PM
			
			
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				Canada probably as 3 or so D on standby. Same for forwards and likely 1-2 in net. 
			
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Well according to TSN, Hockey Canada told Gio he's next in line.
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			01-09-2014, 07:23 PM
			
			
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			I find it interesting that Gio is a reserve and yet Phaneuf hasn't been considered for this team.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			01-09-2014, 07:28 PM
			
			
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			Is it truly horrible of me to hope that Hamhuis has some passport problems and can't go?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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