[News] Miromanov on waivers UPD: Assigned to Wranglers

[Calgary Highlander]

The Flames needed to shed a one-way contract, and there was no chance Miromanov was going to get claimed. From that perspective, I'm okay with the move to waive Solo and ultimately lose him.

Hopefully a team like Philly or Utah (who both have three defensemen on IR) pick up Miro and we can shed another contract.

[Yanda]

Originally Posted by TheScorpion

Someone named Turner Ottenbreit played D for them the other night, I'm not too worried

While true, there is still Morin, Poirier, Grushnikov, Kuznetsov, Cicek and Brzustewicz that would be better off with ice time than Miromanov. It 100% takes minutes away from those 6 guys.

[Enoch Root]

The guy has tools, and showed some promise for a while last year. But he just couldn't put it together.

Hopefully we start to see some trial stints with Brzust, Kuz, Grush and Morin, as the season goes on.

[Hot_Flatus]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

I would rather both Solo and Miro be out of the way of the younger Dmen. Neither was going to be more than bottom pairing ever.

If Hunter B continues his impressive start, I would sincerely hope he is up soon and a guy like Bean is waived as well. If the team wants to start building for next season in a week or two, I'd rather have a few guys that have room to grow, learning the ropes as opposed to 2-3 hangers on.

Weegar-Andersson
Bahl - Parekh
Pachal - Brzustewicz
Hanley

Once Andersson is moved, Hanley can slide up for the remainder of the year and someone else can come up. This is fully a tank worthy D core at that point. This is where you miss a guy like Solovyov who might have seen a regular shift and chance to prove himself as more than a 6/7.

[Goriders]

Guessing Pospisil must be close to coming back.

Still hope they try bringing up Kuznetsov

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by Burn13

Protect the organization on the trade why else?

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by Gaudreau is a Ninja

1- Miro was a throw in, the 1st round pick was the main trade piece coming back.

2- Sharangovich was an obvious signing at the time, he is very streaky and will hopefully get hot soon. Hindsight is 20/20

3- Gridin is very exciting but needs to play a ton of minutes and in all situations on the Wranglers. I’m sure he will be called back up later in the season. No need to rush him.

4- Conroy is doing a great job! When the new arena is ready in a couple of years, the Flames are going to have a young and exciting team. Patience and intellectual honesty is needed by everyone.

5- Flames having a down year and getting another high draft pick is exactly what the team needs.

6- Trading Anderson and Coleman should be on Conroy’s to do list.

I’ve been a Flames fan since ‘86 and I love the direction the franchise is headed Go Flames Go!!!!!

Agreed with most of your post, but I think you wait until the end of December to see where the team is at before going the tank for McKenna route. I don't like the idea of throwing in the towel this early.

[gvitaly]

That was a long time coming, hopefully Pospisil is back soon.

The Russian/Belarusian purge continues:

Sent down to the AHL: Gridin, Prosvetov, Kuznetsov, Grushnikov, Suniev, Sergeyev
Lost on waivers: Solovyov
Pending: Miromanov
Healthy Scratch: Sharangovich

[Badgers Nose]

Just the bad ones or those that aren’t ready yet.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by Enoch Root

The guy has tools, and showed some promise for a while last year. But he just couldn't put it together.

Hopefully we start to see some trial stints with Brzust, Kuz, Grush and Morin, as the season goes on.

I've never seen what anyone saw in him. I called him mediocre and earlier in the thread people are absolutely raving about him "Good, really good!", it was a bizarre pick up by Conroy then and just plain bad now. Maybe he saw something in him and thought he could explode here instead he just busted.

[Macindoc]

He was a throw-in the team viewed as a project. H might have turned into something, but didn't. He didn't cost anything, but didn't work out.

People are dreaming if they think the Flames would have got any other asset instead of him in addition to the draft picks. Except maybe an equally borderline prospect.

[BigThief]

Miromanov was going to be a UFA that summer. Didn't seem like Vegas had any interest in signing again

[D as in David]

Possibly, Vegas wanted/needed a contract moved out.

[DeluxeMoustache]

Exactly. It was offsetting a desired asset

Not the end of the world

His presence and absence have very little to do with the present and future results of the team

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by 1_Flames_Fan

Sharangovich should be next. Doubt anyone claims him and if they do even better. He can work on his compete level on the Wranglers for awhile and bring up someone who gives a f***

That one’s going to be a tougher sell due to contract value. Sharangovich’s contract is looking to be a big mistake. Maybe should have waited to see if he could repeat the first season before signing long term.

Oh well. Can’t win then all. But at some point you have to acknowledge the mistake and move on. Hopefully they can somehow include him in a trade with retention. Doubt anyone will take him though.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by Goriders

That one’s going to be a tougher sell due to contract value. Sharangovich’s contract is looking to be a big mistake. Maybe should have waited to see if he could repeat the first season before signing long term.

Oh well. Can’t win then all. But at some point you have to acknowledge the mistake and move on. Hopefully they can somehow include him in a trade with retention. Doubt anyone will take him though.

They will still have to reach the cap floor, but yeah he can go. Enough of the soft players that don't play a role already.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Calgary Highlander

The Flames needed to shed a one-way contract, and there was no chance Miromanov was going to get claimed. From that perspective, I'm okay with the move to waive Solo and ultimately lose him.

Hopefully a team like Philly or Utah (who both have three defensemen on IR) pick up Miro and we can shed another contract.

Why did the Flames need to shed a one-way contract (and why one-way vs two-way??).


Flames with Miormanov and Solovyov had 47 contracts. 50 are allowed. There is still flexibility there, and enough of it to do a couple of 2-for-1 trades at that. Flames don't need the contract shed. They wanted the roster space cleared up, and they tried to sneak Solovyov through, but probably do hope Miromanov gets picked-off. I just don't see why they need to shed contracts. They don't.

[Jiri Hrdina]

Yeah I don't think they were trying to shed a contract. I think they were trying to get Solo through so he could continue to get playing time. But they likely also knew he wasn't going to reach the threshold for games played to avoid becoming a UFA, so were comfortable also just losing him. There's an element in play where they did right by him by seeing if another team would give him a chance. If they weren't going to give him that chance, ahead of UFA status, it's better for him to get that chance elsewhere.

[Calgary Highlander]

Originally Posted by Calgary4LIfe

Why did the Flames need to shed a one-way contract (and why one-way vs two-way??).


Flames with Miormanov and Solovyov had 47 contracts. 50 are allowed. There is still flexibility there, and enough of it to do a couple of 2-for-1 trades at that. Flames don't need the contract shed. They wanted the roster space cleared up, and they tried to sneak Solovyov through, but probably do hope Miromanov gets picked-off. I just don't see why they need to shed contracts. They don't.

Flames had 9 defensemen who were going to make NHL salary. They would be paying $3M worth of defenseman on any given night not to play. Waiving and losing Solo saved the Flames 775k in real money with negligible impact to the roster.

[Calgary4LIfe]

Originally Posted by Calgary Highlander

Flames had 9 defensemen who were going to make NHL salary. They would be paying $3M worth of defenseman on any given night not to play. Waiving and losing Solo saved the Flames 775k in real money with negligible impact to the roster.

I don't think that would be an issue for the Flames. Had it been, they would have simply not signed him, or not signed someone else, and traded Solovyov for 'future considerations'. That's not a big deal at all, given how far under the cap they are at.