[News] Rangers and Gerard Gallant mutually part ways

[Erick Estrada]

Gallant looks like the ideal coach to bring in mid-season on a disappointing team where you are looking for immediate returns over long term. Seems to wear out his welcome everywhere he coaches and is supposedly very stubborn which is something Flames fans are familiar with.

[FlamesAddiction]

Apparently Kevin Weekes Tweeted that Patrick Roy might be the next Rangers coach. I am too lazy to find the Tweet. I just saw some people talking about it on another forum.

[jayswin]

Originally Posted by Snuffleupagus

It kind of amazes me, I know 2 people who know Gallant personally and they both say he's one of the nicest guys you ever want to meet, he must turn into an evil pumpkin behind the bench

This ins't uncommon in the management/business world. I've met many friends and acquaintances who are the sweetest and most personable/fun people in the world when it's a casual friends/family setting. Caring for people's lives and bringing a positive, laid back energy to the engagement.

But as soon you see them dealing with people and issues in their work world you can see the flip switch to ruthless, cutthroat businessman, like a Jekyll and Hyde.

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by USflamesfan

That is that pseudo optimism everyone starts with for coaches. Sutter wins coach of the year and then he is fired because he cant "manage" players emotions. Optimism is now whoever we get will be brilliant and make the team get 120 points next year.

That means getting Coach of the Year award and then getting fire after the next season.

[CSharp]

Originally Posted by Maritime Q-Scout

At the start of last season the Flames were projected to be a cup contender.

That didn't materialize. Coaching was likely a big factor, and explains Sutter's departure.

What I mean by that is, with the right coach it's possible for the team to rebound and compete next year, not only game in game out putting up a competitive season and a playoff appearance, but with the team they have on paper they should be able to challenge for the cup of Lord Stanley.

Could Gallant be the guy to put them over the top?

He's very successful, heck to Vegas to the finals in their expansion year. His firing there seemed... odd.

Is he hard on players? That I don't know. Possibly.

Does that mean that he'd cause Huberdeau to have the same season next year as he has this year?

In theory... yes.

Except, Huberdeau cut his teeth in the NHL under Gallant. Huberdeau won the Memorical Cup with Saint John under Gallant. They have a relationship, and that likely would go to him rebounding next year rather than having a repeat of this year's poor perforamance.

Am I saying Gallant is the right coach to go after? No. But, that's because I really don't know the right coach to go after, I don't know if promoting from within is the right path. Me saying I don't know, means, just that, I have no idea.

Ultimately, I want a coach that will lead us to the Cup. Don't care if it's Gallant, Sutter, Love or Gordon Bombay.

All that to say I wouldn't dismiss Gallant out of hand.

It's more of a coach who can utilize the right players with the right mind and right attitude to work as a team. You got guys like Huberdeau playing a North-South game because no one or everyone is told to do that when he came from a system where he can go East-West with guys that gel with him and knows where the puck is going to be when he makes the plays. That's not utilizing the skills of a player at their best or that's not the player that's meant for the Flames. Coaching is one aspect of the team but it's also the mix of players that make up a huge part of that team. Everyone needs to jive with each other.

[Bandwagon Surfer]

Originally Posted by BagoPucks

I think these "tough" coaches who get rewards but have short shelf lives have me thinking more about the "today's" player. Are there just not enough guys who want to win? Are they all looking for a participation award and collect paycheques?

To me the simplest answer is that they are just bad coaches.



Leadership changes often result in short term boosts as everyone is brought together by the shared experience of the change. Longer term when the results of their decisions and management style are felt, is when you see if they are actually good at their job.


People with a lot of short job stints on their resume tend to be people who are better at interviewing than they are at actually doing the job.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Hockey_Ninja

Saw someone point this out on Twitter: All three Jack Adams nominees from last year are now all fired a year later

Kiss of death

[jg13]

I hope I don't even hear a rumour the Flames are interested in this guy. If you can't win a round with that Rangers roster what do you expect you're going to do in Calgary.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Apparently Kevin Weekes Tweeted that Patrick Roy might be the next Rangers coach. I am too lazy to find the Tweet. I just saw some people talking about it on another forum.

Read an article on TSN talking about Roy potentially making another appearance in the NHL. That would be an interesting choice for the Flames.

Might be too intense for our group. If they couldn’t handle Sutter they’d probably need therapy the first time Roy tries to tear down the partition between the benches.

[DoubleK]

Originally Posted by jg13

I hope I don't even hear a rumour the Flames are interested in this guy. If you can't win a round with that Rangers roster what do you expect you're going to do in Calgary.

Gallant is exactly the kind of coach that could have success with the Flams next year.

It's year two and three that will be the problem.

[MrMike]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

Apparently Kevin Weekes Tweeted that Patrick Roy might be the next Rangers coach. I am too lazy to find the Tweet. I just saw some people talking about it on another forum.

Roy would want to be GM and POHO and then find the one ring to rule them all. He has no limits

[loob job]

I'd love Gallant here, Dolan is absolutely crazy and Drury does whatever he says to keep his job. 110 points and and Eastern Conf. Final and then 107 points the next year, come on, I'd be happy to have him here.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by loob job

I'd love Gallant here, Dolan is absolutely crazy and Drury does whatever he says to keep his job. 110 points and and Eastern Conf. Final and then 107 points the next year, come on, I'd be happy to have him here.

It’s hard to argue with the fact that he lasts no more than 3 years anywhere despite initial success in his last 3 gigs. I’d argue he was as good a coach as Luongo, MAF and Shesterkin let him be each time.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

It’s hard to argue with the fact that he lasts no more than 3 years anywhere despite initial success in his last 3 gigs. I’d argue he was as good a coach as Luongo, MAF and Shesterkin let him be each time.

Apparently he's pretty stubborn and I just don't see that aligning with the Flames especially after the whole Sutter/Treliving thing this season. They need to hire a head coach that's going to be on the same page as the GM.

[Hackey]

I always thought Dan Byslma seemed like a good coach but maybe he just had great players

[loob job]

Games Coached in Vegas Gallant - 213, his successor Pete Deboer fired after 160 games.
Games Coached in Florida Gallant - 164, There have been seven seasons after that and they have had 5 coaches since, no one coaching more games than Gallant.

We all know Dolan's nuts in New York, could be that Vegas and Floridas owners aren't the most stable either. I don't know but I would take Pete Deboer as well and he only lasted 160 games in Vegas.

[FlamesAddiction]

I always thought Alain Vigneault was a good coach and always seemed to command respect from the players. His teams were usually known to be hard working, possession focused with quick transition and break outs.

Maybe not a spring chicken anymore, but I wouldn't be disappointed if his name turns up. I remember back when Gilbert was fired, Vigneault was available. I called in to the Marc Stephens radio show and said that the Flames should hire him, and Marc was like, nah.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by loob job

Games Coached in Vegas Gallant - 213, his successor Pete Deboer fired after 160 games.
Games Coached in Florida Gallant - 164, There have been seven seasons after that and they have had 5 coaches since, no one coaching more games than Gallant.

We all know Dolan's nuts in New York, could be that Vegas and Floridas owners aren't the most stable either. I don't know but I would take Pete Deboer as well and he only lasted 160 games in Vegas.

Deboer was involved in that spat with MAF and his agent (but TBF that was Walsh).

[Paulie Walnuts]

Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction

I always thought Alain Vigneault was a good coach and always seemed to command respect from the players. His teams were usually known to be hard working, possession focused with quick transition and break outs.

Maybe not a spring chicken anymore, but I wouldn't be disappointed if his name turns up. I remember back when Gilbert was fired, Vigneault was available. I called in to the Marc Stephens radio show and said that the Flames should hire him, and Marc was like, nah.

He was good in Vancouver, really took advantage of the Sedins and put them in a position to flourish.

A lot of analytical work with that group, ozone starts and things of that nature.

[Buff]

Originally Posted by GioforPM

It’s hard to argue with the fact that he lasts no more than 3 years anywhere despite initial success in his last 3 gigs. I’d argue he was as good a coach as Luongo, MAF and Shesterkin let him be each time.

He hasn't lasted a full 3 seasons anywhere! This is the first time he wasn't fired midway into his 3rd season.

I saw some article, I think from a blogger who covers the Flames, talking about how Gallant would be a good fit in Calgary as a player friendly coach... uh, there's nothing player friendly about him. He's fan friendly maybe but not player friendly. He's hard like Sutter.