[GT] Flames vs Jets

[Mass_nerder]

What a frustrating game.
I thought we looked pretty good, but a couple of bs calls around the net, Hellybuck playing really well, and Winnipeg burying every good chance they've had, we're getting dummied.

It feels like the last month of hockey, every team we've played is shooting at like 20-25%.

[Aarongavey]

Originally Posted by memphusk

Do you think a full blown rebuild or just a retool? They have Darryl 3 years so it seems like retool and if that doesn't work its a rebuild.

Keep Brad as the GM and you can call it a re-tool and still have a lottery team during Darryl'd tenure. Bit of a win-win.

[Manhattanboy]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

The path is a retool that will likely turn into a full rebuild in 3 years. You said it there with Darryl here they are in it to win it. Hockey trades are likely.

If the Flames could move Gaudreau or Monahan for solid futures at the deadline though they could then use a portion of those futures and cap space to make moves in the summer to win now.

I like Seattle’s chances better.

[Mathgod]

Originally Posted by ben voyonsdonc

Fixed your post.

While Bennett is a problem...he’s a third/fourth liner at this point so you can’t say that he is the problem.

With the way he's been playing the past 15 or so games, I'm barely convinced he's even an NHLer anymore. Saddens me to say that as I was hoping he would find a way to turn things around. He has done anything but.

[CGY12]

Nothing is wrong with Markstrom. He is elite. He is fighting it a bit but can you imagine having to go out there and play behind this team? It would be completely disheartening. The forward group is an absolute joke.

[WhiteTiger]

Well...I'd say that was a waste of a Monday night, but...it's about right, for a Monday night.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by Vinny01

The path is a retool that will likely turn into a full rebuild in 3 years. You said it there with Darryl here they are in it to win it. Hockey trades are likely.

If the Flames could move Gaudreau or Monahan for solid futures at the deadline though they could then use a portion of those futures and cap space to make moves in the summer to win now.

This is exactly what I was thinking.

[Infinit47]

Originally Posted by Inferno

All that means to to me is the Jets are capitalizing on their chances. The Flames can get all the high danger chances they want but if they constantly find ways to screw them up it doesn't matter. They've done it all year.

.884 save percentage over 11 games since he came off IR. He's been putrid.

[timbit]

Originally Posted by Mass_nerder

What a frustrating game. I thought we looked pretty good, but a couple of bs calls around the net, Hellybuck playing really well, and Winnipeg burying every good chance they've had, we're getting dummied.

It feels like the last month of hockey, every team we've played is shooting at like 20-25%.

Interesting...so the Flames get beat 5-1, and had no fault.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by CGY12

Nothing is wrong with Markstrom. He is elite. He is fighting it a bit but can you imagine having to go out there and play behind this team? It would be completely disheartening. The forward group is an absolute joke.

for the first time ever I agree with you

He allowed 3 goals...sure he could have made a highlight save but they were all MAJOR defensive breakdowns

[Macho0978]

Originally Posted by memphusk

Do you think a full blown rebuild or just a retool? They have Darryl 3 years so it seems like retool and if that doesn't work its a rebuild.

I’ve been saying retool and think Johnny should go first. Not that he’s been the worst of the bunch but he might bring best return and I don’t think he will age well. Can’t see him being good in his mid 30s

But they way Tkachuk is playing I don’t think I want to give him 9.

Monahan seems done

Gio isn’t very good anymore

Seems like too many players make sense to move. Might need to be a rebuild

Backlund is close to being done too.

[memphusk]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

I’ve been saying retool and think Johnny should go first. Not that he’s been the worst of the bunch but he might bring best return and I don’t think he will age well. Can’t see him being good in his mid 30s

But they way Tkachuk is playing I don’t think I want to give him 9.

Monahan seems done

Gio isn’t very good anymore

Seems like too many players make sense to move. Might need to be a rebuild

Backlund is close to being done too.

Maybe just a big retool. Hahaha. I think Gaudreau is the first domino.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Macho0978

I’ve been saying retool and think Johnny should go first. Not that he’s been the worst of the bunch but he might bring best return and I don’t think he will age well. Can’t see him being good in his mid 30s

But they way Tkachuk is playing I don’t think I want to give him 9.

Monahan seems done

Gio isn’t very good anymore

Seems like too many players make sense to move. Might need to be a rebuild

Backlund is close to being done too.

Easier thing to do is make a list of who you would keep. Bet it’s a short list.

[Inferno]

Originally Posted by AustinL_NHL

Unfortunately that is not the case.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1376750419129430021

And as I posted earlier in the thread:



In the 10 games since coming back (not including tonight which will make his numbers much worse), on top of Salim's tweet above, among 56 goalies who've played at least 4 games, Markstrom ranks (at 5v5):

- 47th in SV% (.899)
- 46th in GSAA/60 (-0.53/60)
- 38th in HDSV% (.792)
- 30th in average goal distance (20.48)

Overall this season, Markstrom has been poor. Since returning from injury, he's been horrible.

You need to take into consideration the goals themselves and not just the stats.

I agree he hasn't been lights out since coming back and stealing games like he did before getting injured but the team is also playing alot worse too and is not only giving up too many chances but not giving him any goal support.