Deerfoot. I hate you Deerfoot.

[Cheese]

ah your just a big pu$$y Rouge!
Cmon out here and try driving the 401 from say...Kitchener across the top of Toronto and back...anytime of the day. Makes the Deerfoot look like a calm country road.
It pees me off driving the 'foot....people drive soooooooooo slow LOL. Im used to the Indianapolis 500 mentality on our roads. Nothing like playing dodge the vehicle with 75 big rigs driving 150km/hr.

[habernac]

Originally Posted by Cheese

ah your just a big pu$$y Rouge!
Cmon out here and try driving the 401 from say...Kitchener across the top of Toronto and back...anytime of the day. Makes the Deerfoot look like a calm country road.
It pees me off driving the 'foot....people drive soooooooooo slow LOL. Im used to the Indianapolis 500 mentality on our roads. Nothing like playing dodge the vehicle with 75 big rigs driving 150km/hr.

LOL! My mom tells a great story. Grandpa came out east when I was born (I was actually born in Burlington, very happy we didn't spend any time there). He was from Saskatchewan. Needless to say, he wasn't used to driving on something like the 401. He's gripping the steering wheel, chain smoking away and going a lot fasterthan usual. "Slow dowwwn!" hollers Grandma from the passenger seat. "I can't! The sons of bitches will run me over!!!" said Grandpa.

[Tron_fdc]

Haha yeah the 401 is nuts. I was on it a few weeks ago, and if you don't drive like a total a-hole you'll get rear ended. It's absolute mayhem for someone like me who has never driven the express or the connector, and trying to find my off ramp was insane.

Same thing there though; during rush hour it all comes to a grinding halt.

[STeeLy]

I find the 401 pretty easy to navigate... and I've never actually been on any of the 400 highways til this year... I've been in Toronto enough times and never hit the 401 before. Now that I did... it wasn't so bad...

What people need to understand is that... the left lane is for passing... people that drive the 401 outside of Toronto understand it a little better that... if there is room on the right... get in and pass the other car when you get to it... too many people in Calgary don't understand that concept...

[Ironhorse]

Originally Posted by Madman

The awesome part of that interchange is the non-banked northbound corner under 17th. So you more than likely need to slow down a little to make that sucker, (and people in the right lane will slow down more because its a tighter corner).

And let us not forget the nice compound curve that got thrown in there for good measure. It's ok if you know what you're doing and paying attention, but not appropriate for the "sheeple" that form the majority of Calgary drivers.

[Metro Gnome]

The problem with the Deerfoot is it's design. It's made to generate traffic problems.

Lanes pop up and then disappear. Merge lanes off and on the Deerfoot are conflated. There are bottlenecks everywhere. In some places, it's 8 lanes. In others, it's 4.

It's a laughably bad road in just so many ways in terms of design. They actually had lights at the South end of it until recently.

[flambers]

Originally Posted by Metro Gnome

The problem with the Deerfoot is it's design. It's made to generate traffic problems.

Lanes pop up and then disappear. Merge lanes off and on the Deerfoot are conflated. There are bottlenecks everywhere. In some places, it's 8 lanes. In others, it's 4.

It's a laughably bad road in just so many ways in terms of design. They actually had lights at the South end of it until recently.

Yep I agree, the Glenmore intersection for example has always caused problems... The Deerfoot is not made to handle so much traffic....

[Dan02]

Northbound in the PM it's definately the 17th/memorial mess and the Mcknight/64th mess which always get you.

[REDVAN]

Originally Posted by fredr123

In case anyone wanted to relive that CP classic "Get the F * * * Out of the Left Lane"

Have stayed away until now, but... Deerfoot has gotten significantly worse in the last 5-6 years. It's gotten to the point where I avoid rush hour just so I don't have to get frusterated by all the idiots. At least when there isn't gridlock you can get around those fools.

[Rathji]

Originally Posted by REDVAN

Have stayed away until now, but... Deerfoot has gotten significantly worse in the last 5-6 years. It's gotten to the point where I avoid rush hour just so I don't have to get frusterated by all the idiots. At least when there isn't gridlock you can get around those fools.

I do the same. I show up for school an hour and a half early to avoid sitting int eh parking lot known as Deerfoot

[simmonjam1]

Originally Posted by V

Huh, the one's I was thinking of was merging onto Deerfoot from 17 Ave SE while folks are merging onto Memorial from Deerfoot. What a mess. Looks like there are a few examples of them.

I hate merging from 17 Ave SE going north on Deerfoot. The 17th ave merge goes from 2 lanes to 1. Most people do the one-for-one merge there but there are a couple of a$$h oles that will ride the person's a$$ in front of them to prevent someone from moving in.

[simmonjam1]

In the morning travelling from Country Hills Blvd to Pagaen Trail the back up seems to be from Beddington Trail to McKnight.

In the afternoon travelling from Pagaen Trail to Country Hills Blvd the back up seems to be from 17th Ave to 64 Ave.

I figure its a combo of no one is exiting Deerfoot; only getting onto it. And the fact that people can't properly merge in this city.

[V]

Originally Posted by simmonjam1

I hate merging from 17 Ave SE going north on Deerfoot. The 17th ave merge goes from 2 lanes to 1. Most people do the one-for-one merge there but there are a couple of a$$h oles that will ride the person's a$$ in front of them to prevent someone from moving in.

I think the biggest problem there is the early mergers. The one's that are in the right lane and then cut in to the left lane far before they need to. So someone lets them in, but then the next guy goes all the way until the lane ends (like he should). So the guys that were in the left lane in the first place end up seeing about 3 times as many cars cut in front of them as they should.

And then when they finally make it to the Deerfoot they have to try to guess whether or not the guy on the Deerfoot right most lane is going to swerve into your lane while you're trying to merge onto Deerfoot.

Just a nasty piece of road. And I take it every friggin day.

[Bend it like Bourgeois]

Doesn't really bug me. Not that I love it, mind you.

Traffic on the deerfoot is nothing compared to trying to get around Vancouver, Montreal or Toronto.

[ken0042]

What I find funny was last week we had a thread about taxes going up and how so much money is going to build things that we don't need, and then today we have a thread complaining about how Calgary in the 70's and 80's didn't think forward enough to spend extra to build the infastructure to what would be needed in future decades.

Deerfoot was built as a freeway to serve a city of 500K with anticipated growth to 700K people. When I moved here in 1992 I remember KIK-FM calling the morning traffic report "the morning race report" and mentioning that traffic on Deerfoot was crawling along at 120. The fact is the road worked for then, it needs some serious work now to catch up.

[T@T]

Originally Posted by Cheese

ah your just a big pu$$y Rouge!
Cmon out here and try driving the 401 from say...Kitchener across the top of Toronto and back...anytime of the day. Makes the Deerfoot look like a calm country road.
It pees me off driving the 'foot....people drive soooooooooo slow LOL. Im used to the Indianapolis 500 mentality on our roads. Nothing like playing dodge the vehicle with 75 big rigs driving 150km/hr.

I drove the 401 for 4 years and would prefer it anyday to the deerfoot, at least it has collector lanes for merging, the only time the 401 ever scared me was in the fog. it seems there are some magical fog glasses out there and I was the only one without them.

[SebC]

Any time I try to make space for someone to merge in front of me they invariably fail to accelerate into the gap. So now I'll try to get way ahead of them instead of letting them in in front of me.

[Cube Inmate]

The improved merge @ Peigan onto Deerfoot southbound is already improving things a little bit.

[Resolute 14]

Oh man, I hate cops on Deerfoot! After 7 hours of cruising at 120 from Grande Prairie to home today, I was coming up Deerfoot to get to the game at 120 and got pulled over. CPS had one heck of a gig going at 130th. I was one of 3 people who got pulled over in about 45 seconds. Mea culpa.