[Rumour] UPD: Daly says no need to protect expiring contracts with NMC

[Par]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Pronger is worst situation possible. They would have to protect the guy.

I don't think that Pronger gets picked anyway, hopefully the league throws the Coyotes a bone and say he is exempt from the draft(highly unlikely the league does this though).

[Chingas]

Originally Posted by Resolute 14

First, it's Brooks, so probably wrong anyway.

Second, if true, F the NHLPA. They would be the ones driving such a ridiculous rule.

Third, No choice but to buy-out Wideman.

Not sure why the NHLPA would be pushing for this? I would think that the players who are under contract would prefer to stay on the teams that they signed with rather than an expansion team. Additionally this offers nothing of value to the players with expiring contracts.

I will be very pissed if this is actually what happens in the end. If so I feel happy knowing that Burke will be sure to get his two cents in.

I will echo many others, but Wideman will more than likley be bought out this summer if this all comes to pass.

[the2bears]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

I don't believe it will happen personally. For the reason that you are giving such a small benefit to the expansion team and absolutely punishing a small number of teams. Look at that list - there is just a small number of teams that would be exposing a different player or two.

For Calgary the biggest issue isn't that you have to protect Wideman per se and expose someone else, it's that it would make him virtually untradeable at the deadline.

Doesn't the team Wideman is traded to have the option of not honoring the NMC? I thought I read that hear one time.

[Chingas]

Originally Posted by the2bears

Doesn't the team Wideman is traded to have the option of not honoring the NMC? I thought I read that hear one time.

No. The NMC moves with the player.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Par

I don't think that Pronger gets picked anyway, hopefully the league throws the Coyotes a bone and say he is exempt from the draft(highly unlikely the league does this though).

Screw that and screw the Coyotes. If one single team has to protect a player with a No Move Clause who is going to be UFA in just a few days, then all of them should have to.

Either you screw them all, or let them all off the hook.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Strange Brew

Pronger is worst situation possible. They would have to protect the guy.

I believe Arizona has a sweetheart deal if they buyout Pronger.

$191k in cash for the next two years. Full cap hit for this upcoming season so they can hit the floor.

Win scenario for them if they buy him out.

[Rtown]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

1. PHI - RJ Umberger - NMC & M-NTC
2. MIN - Thomas Vanek - NMC
3. EDM - Andrew Ference - NMC
4. SJS - Joe Thornton - NMC
5. SJS - Patrick Marleau - NMC
6. DET - Pavel Datsyuk - NMC 35+
7. DAL - Patrick Sharp - NMC & M-NTC
8. OTT - Chris Neil - NMC 35+
9. COL - Jarome Iginla - NMC 35+
10. CGY - Dennis Wideman - NMC
11. CAR - James Wisniewski - NMC & M-NTC
12. ARI - Antoine Vermette - NMC
13. ARI - Chris Pronger - NMC

Here is the list of expiring NMC's

San Jose and Arizona get screwed pretty hard here, especially Arizona.


*According to CapFreindly*

Meh, Arizona will somehow get a "special commissioners exemption" and not have to protect those 2, being Gary's pet and all.

[Fire]

No problem, just buy him out, unless he's still hurt and you can't....

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

Datsyuk - probably a non-issue if he retires

That wouldn't matter would it? It's a 35+ contract and won't go away no matter what until it expires.

[Wolfman]

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't next season the last last year of his deal. Expansion won't be until 17/18. We should be clear of his contract anyway won't we?

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by sureLoss

I believe Arizona has a sweetheart deal if they buyout Pronger.

$191k in cash for the next two years. Full cap hit for this upcoming season so they can hit the floor.

Win scenario for them if they buy him out.

I thought you couldn't buy out injured players?

[Canada 02]

I wouldn't want to lose Gio for free, but he would be the player to expose if Wideman is still with the Flames and needs to be protected

the silver lining would be potentially free of that big contract, which likely bites the Flames in years 5 and 6 (if not earlier), freeing $6.75 M cap space

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

That wouldn't matter would it? It's a 35+ contract and won't go away no matter what until it expires.

The cap hit remains, but the contract is considered done by the NHL.

[sureLoss]

Originally Posted by Roof-Daddy

I thought you couldn't buy out injured players?

You can if the player agrees to it. See Chris Drury who waived the medical requirement https://www.nhl.com/news/rangers-to-...tract/c-567644

There is very little money left on the Pronger deal, he could be open to it.

[Roof-Daddy]

Originally Posted by Wolfman

Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't next season the last last year of his deal. Expansion won't be until 17/18. We should be clear of his contract anyway won't we?

The expansion draft is expected to take place in mid-to-late June. These contracts won't expire until July 1st, which is why there is such debate about teams having to use a protection slot on players who will be UFA's in a matter of days after being protected

[Rtown]

The other side of the coin is not only does it suck having to waste a protection slot on him, but it also diminishes the value of an asset to virtually zero.

I'm not gonna claim to know what the value of Wideman coulda been/will be at next year's trade deadline, but I've been around long enough to know that anything can happen at the trade deadline. And now feel with this "stipulation" attached to a pending free agent, it will render the asset useless.

[MisterJoji]

Originally Posted by Lord Carnage

Trying to remember, but aren't there only a handful of players (maybe 6ish) who:
- have full no-movement clauses, and
- become UFA on July 1, 2017

Becomes easier to push that through when it affects so few I'd imagine.

Still stupid though...



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Well as long as it doesn't affect LA, I'm sure the NHL could give a #### about whoever the other 6 are.

[mikephoen]

They'll probably just have the expansion draft on July 1st and then free agency can begin on July 5th or something like that. Problems solved.

[Sylvanfan]

Buy out has to happen. Yet another Feaster blunder that we get to live with. Why on Earth was a Wideman calibre player given a NMC. Dumb dumb GM.

[browna]

Originally Posted by Canada 02

I wouldn't want to lose Gio for free, but he would be the player to expose if Wideman is still with the Flames and needs to be protected

the silver lining would be potentially free of that big contract, which likely bites the Flames in years 5 and 6 (if not earlier), freeing $6.75 M cap space

That's assuming Gio is still on the roster by that point.