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Old 12-08-2015, 06:15 AM   #41
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The NHL is the only pro-league I can think of where the players can say #### you to the ref and the ref can say it to the players and it's no big deal.
Uh...baseball?

http://deadspin.com/5978810/a-lip-re...uments-of-2012

Basketball might be the worst for tolerance of cursing.
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Old 12-08-2015, 06:23 AM   #42
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^^ it's an automatic technical foul for swearing right? And you can very easily get ejected for being rude to a ref if I'm not mistaken.

I stopped following basketball a good 15 years ago.
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Old 12-08-2015, 07:50 AM   #43
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From what I remember, the season with the Leafs and Wings, there was a clip of Phaneuf yapping with someone after the whistle. The ref watches for a bit, then finally has enough, skates over and says something like, "#### both you guys. You're gone."
https://vine.co/v/hLeFpKBIIWq

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The highlight package from Sportsnet shows a better angle of it: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/j...rs-edge-bruins

He does get him in the face, but it's on a follow-through, so it shouldn't be a high sticking penalty.
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Old 12-08-2015, 09:17 AM   #45
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The highlight package from Sportsnet shows a better angle of it: http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/j...rs-edge-bruins

He does get him in the face, but it's on a follow-through, so it shouldn't be a high sticking penalty.
Nystrom also gets his ass handed to him by a rook.
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I wish all refereeing was held to the standard of Rugby Union. The ref is God and is to be treated as such and if you say one word to the ref that he doesnt like you're going to regret it.
This guy certainly comes across as one not to #### with

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Old 12-08-2015, 12:42 PM   #47
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Rugby refs are the best. It's also a very impressive sport for total intensity on the field, but respect and discipline once the whistle is blown.
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This guy certainly comes across as one not to #### with

Never heard someone outside of North American refer to it as soccer.
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This guy certainly comes across as one not to #### with

Nigel Owens is the absolute best.

Dont you wish all sports were refereed that way? Great, physically intense game but absolute and utmost respect to the referee.

I think hockey would be better if the referees were treated with that kind of respect. And soccer goes without saying.
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Rugby refs are the best. It's also a very impressive sport for total intensity on the field, but respect and discipline once the whistle is blown.
It's only like this because the league backs it up.

Hockey Players aren't neanderthals that can't follow rules, rules just aren't enforced in hockey.

As a fan, it is truly bizarre all the different ways a player can violate the spirit and language of a rule and receive essentially no consequences for it.
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Never heard someone outside of North American refer to it as soccer.
I know Aussies do.
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I know Aussies do.
Go the Asian Champion Socceroos! Interestingly in Australia depending on who you are talking too Football could mean one of four sports.

To stay on topic hockey is the best of the 4 NA sports in ref abuse (baseball has to be the worst) but is still not close to rugby in the power and respect given to the officials.

Also, I was once an aspiring linesman and had the opportunity to be mentored at a Hitmen game. I asked the WHL official what he thought of the abuse from coaches and players and he responded it was a high pressure situation where jobs are on the line so some of it was expected. He then said there was a line they could cross however where he could skate to the ref and request a penalty. Personally though I quit reffing a couple years later as the abuse started to out way the pay.

Oh, and I also asked him if I could help if a fight broke out during the warm-up and was told very bluntly in that situation to get the hell off the ice haha.
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Rask hits him in the face, clearly, Neal falls down gets right back up and plays the puck, how the hell is that a penalty. I should hit Peel in the face with a stick and see if he falls down. I guarantee Peel though he didn't get hit and that's why he F bombed him. Peel is wrong.
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Am I the only one who thinks the most amazing part of that video is the absolutely goddamn ridiculous passing play by the Bruins on the ensuing power play?

Holy crap. That was gorgeous.
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Never heard someone outside of North American refer to it as soccer.
Mystery solved: Don’t blame the Americans! The real origin of the word ‘soccer’

https://uk.sports.yahoo.com/blogs/th...123344142.html
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Am I the only one who thinks the most amazing part of that video is the absolutely goddamn ridiculous passing play by the Bruins on the ensuing power play?

Holy crap. That was gorgeous.
The things that I noticed were:

1. I cannot believe how clearly you can hear the referee. That place was quiet as a church.

2. Killing penalties is hard work. Your teammates do it because they're your teammates. If you've made them do it because your acting lessons havent paid off then they may well mail it in and no one will blame them, they'll blame you.
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The only thing the ref missed was an MF bomb at Neal for good measure.
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Never heard someone outside of North American refer to it as soccer.
Well, Owens would have been a right prat if he'd told the player, ‘This is not football.’ It *is* football. Rugby football. So he had to use a word that clearly and unambiguously meant association football, thus: Soccer.

By the way, and further to the article Troutman linked above:

The exact form of the word ‘soccer’ comes from a peculiar slang that was common at Oxford (possibly other English universities, but definitely Oxford) in the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

The slang worked by shortening every key word down to one syllable and then tacking on -er. So you'd get up and eat brekker (breakfast), go to class and listen to a lekker (lecture), and since there was no radio or TV, you might get together with the lads for a sigger-sogger (sing-song) or amuse yourself with a pragger-jogger (practical joke). And so forth.

Naturally enough, Association Football became soccer, and Rugby Union (and Rugby League) Football became rugger. (Football in general was sometimes called footer.) Both kinds of football were played at the posh schools in England. The boys at those schools were keen to imitate university slang, and anything else that made them feel grown-up and sophisticated. I imagine it was through those schools that the words soccer and rugger spread into the general population.

Much later, the purely English word soccer fell out of favour. This was because a lot of English snobs noticed that those awful Americans were using the word, whereas the ever-so-cultured French called the game le football. So now the English, instead of using a good English name for the sport, go imitating a lot of cheese-eating surrender monkeys, and think this makes them superior to people who still speak the language.
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So, really, using that naming convention, Association Football should really be called Asser and not Soccer.
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So, really, using that naming convention, Association Football should really be called Asser and not Soccer.
Nice joke. However, the general rule was that you shortened the word to the syllable that carries the major stress (excluding prefixes or suffixes). The ‘ass’ in ‘association’ is unstressed.

If that hadn't been the rule, it would quickly have become so, since a bunch of Oxford undergrads and Eton sixth-form boys were not about to announce to the world that they were on an asser team.
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