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Old 06-23-2014, 10:52 AM   #41
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Tim Panaccio @tpanotchCSN
Hexy said "No. 1 thing was we wanted to get quicker up front"

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Hexy admits that shorter contract was a factor and gives them more cap flexibility

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Says there was no issue with Hartnell. "good hockey player"
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Old 06-23-2014, 11:04 AM   #42
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Odd move to make for cap considerations 3 years down the road.
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Old 06-23-2014, 11:10 AM   #43
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Quicker up front? Umberger is slow as molasses in January.
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Old 06-23-2014, 11:12 AM   #44
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Not like the Flyers to make moves with an eye to the future. Then again the Flyers seem to operate differently than the other 29 teams in the NHL so even though on the surface I think it's not a very good deal there's nothing that franchise can do that would surprise me.
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Old 06-23-2014, 11:13 AM   #45
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All I've done for the past 10 minutes is stare at this and shake my head. What a terrible, terrible trade.
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Old 06-23-2014, 11:20 AM   #46
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Hartnell was a hear and soul guy, hes the kind of guy that you need to win in the playoffs, this seems stupid.

Granted, his contract was atrocious.
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Old 06-23-2014, 11:26 AM   #47
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Flyers have an affinity for pulling headscratching deals on June 23rd:
http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/...year-span.html

Richards, Carter, Van Riemsdyk, and now Hartnell all traded on June 23rd.
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Old 06-23-2014, 11:46 AM   #48
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Now this is interesting:

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Talk going around is Scott Hartnell requested Flyers trade him. Has no-movement clause.
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Old 06-23-2014, 11:56 AM   #49
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Now this is interesting:

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Talk going around is Scott Hartnell requested Flyers trade him. Has no-movement clause.
Makes me wonder how many options Philly had. Rock and a hard place.
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Old 06-23-2014, 12:00 PM   #50
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Now this is interesting:

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Talk going around is Scott Hartnell requested Flyers trade him. Has no-movement clause.
Something must've happened behind the scenes to make him change his mind. He had just completed year 1 of a new 6 year deal.
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Old 06-23-2014, 12:07 PM   #51
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The thing with Hartnell, is that he has a lot of hard mileage on his body. He's going to fall to pieces in short order here. Good return for the Jackets for Umberger, but in time that Hartnell contract is going to be tough to swallow.
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Old 06-23-2014, 12:13 PM   #52
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CBJ wins in the near term, but those last couple years on Hartnell's contract are potential buyout years.

I guess Edmonton isn't getting Umberger for Gagner. Edmonton is no good.
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Aaron Portzline@Aportzline · 2h

This is a huge lift off #CBJ GM Kekalainen. Club was contemplating a compliance buyout on Umberger if they couldn't move him before draft.


Aaron Portzline@Aportzline · 8m

#CBJ GM Jarmo Kekalainen had a long talk with Scott Hartnell on Sunday, detailing for him the direction of the Blue Jackets' organization.

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Kekalainen on Hartnell: "He said 'I'm 32 years old. I have plenty of money. What I want to do more than anything now is win."

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Hartnell must have liked what Kekalainen said. He phoned #CBJ GM this morning to say he was waving his no-move clause, coming to Columbus.
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I like this deal for Columbus. Worse players than Hartnell are making 4.7 million. It's gonna really hard to make the playoffs in the west, if other teams in the conference keep making smart moves.
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I like this deal for Columbus. Worse players than Hartnell are making 4.7 million. It's gonna really hard to make the playoffs in the west, if other teams in the conference keep making smart moves.
Good thing Columbus isn't in the west anymore.
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Old 06-23-2014, 12:45 PM   #56
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Good thing Columbus isn't in the west anymore.
Damn! I forgot. Can't get used to CBJ and Detroit in the East.
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Old 06-23-2014, 01:05 PM   #57
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Suck it Phaneuf!
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Old 06-23-2014, 01:14 PM   #58
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Hmmm. Nice to see a GM out of Philadelphia actually thinking long-term. the Jackets win in the short-term (Hartnell is the better player) but Philly will be better off in the end. Win-Win trade IMO.
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Old 06-23-2014, 01:26 PM   #59
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Hartnell hasn't been great since he had that major injury at the end last or the start of the season that's just finished.


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Old 06-23-2014, 01:41 PM   #60
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Decent trade for both teams. Jackets gets the best player, but this saves Philly some cash over the long run and lessens the logjam at Center that the Flyers had, while adding an additional pick to their arsenal.

I like it.
How does it diminish the logjam at centre?

Puzzling move by Philly. Why not just move him out for picks to a team that needs to hit the floor rather than taking on Umberger? Or an expiring contract?
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