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Old 06-30-2025, 07:12 PM   #481
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Sit him for the year. See what that's worth to him. Flames are always too nice.

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I don’t see how that helps short term or long term
Plus the Pa would have something to say about it
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Old 06-30-2025, 07:14 PM   #482
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Conroy has to consider another factor. Sending Andersson to Vegas for futures-driven deal helps Vegas improve, therefore weaking the value of the 2026 pick they have. The only other option out there as of now (at least I didn't see him sign) is Burns, but at his age, it is a significant step down from Andersson.



I say screw it, and sell Andersson to the highest bidder for the teams willing to acquire him as a rental. Value is probably not going to be that much different given the reluctance to open up towards more teams.
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I’ve been a fan of Cataford’s since his draft season. Very underrated player, he has a well-rounded skill set, and can do a bit of everything.

They also have Jakob Ihs-Wozniak, who is going to be a player.
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Old 06-30-2025, 07:17 PM   #484
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Andersson had the chance to go (as everyone did) when Conroy cleaned house a season earlier. He committed as did JH and Kadri.
Now he wants to go and dictate his terms? Not so fast.

Conroy better hold his horses here and not give in to panic or player pressure for one team who will threaten to get their player tomorrow if the Flames don't act.

Andersson may actually come into camp in shape for once of he has something to prove.
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Old 06-30-2025, 07:17 PM   #485
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Andersson isn’t doing anything wrong but it is shady picking 1 team.

This really falls on management who should be facing the backlash. They sat on an asset and let him dictate a trade and his future. If you moved Markstrom you should have moved Andersson as well.
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Old 06-30-2025, 07:25 PM   #486
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Old 06-30-2025, 07:25 PM   #487
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Andersson isn’t doing anything wrong but it is shady picking 1 team.

This really falls on management who should be facing the backlash. They sat on an asset and let him dictate a trade and his future. If you moved Markstrom you should have moved Andersson as well.
Not really shady. He's a year from free agency and the opportunity to pick his team. Why should he sign in another city when Vegas wants him and he wants to play there? He doesn't owe the Flames anything and you can't fault a player for using their NTC to dictate where they land.

If Vegas doesn't have enough to offer then the Flames should just hold onto him until the trade deadline next season as he should fetch a decent return even as a pure rental.
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Conroy has to consider another factor. Sending Andersson to Vegas for futures-driven deal helps Vegas improve, therefore weaking the value of the 2026 pick they have. The only other option out there as of now (at least I didn't see him sign) is Burns, but at his age, it is a significant step down from Andersson.



I say screw it, and sell Andersson to the highest bidder for the teams willing to acquire him as a rental. Value is probably not going to be that much different given the reluctance to open up towards more teams.
I appreciate what rasmus did for the flames but with pietrangelo out, I don’t think he really moves the needle all that much for Vegas. I think they’re near their short term peak fwiw, even with the addition of Marner.
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Old 06-30-2025, 07:29 PM   #489
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It's not shady it's just stupid. You think you're maximizing your value when you just choose 1 team to negotiate with? Vegas could give him a take it or leave it lowball offer, and if even they don't do that they certainly won't offer top dollar if they know he's not even willing to talk to one other team. Even hanifin was smart enough to at least pick a couple


And then on top of it you pick an aging team that has clealy been passed by conference rivals. Weird stuff. I'd take Connolly, a 1st and the kid they drafted in the 2nd this year. But it does suck that were basically ruining the likelihood the vegas picks we get are half decent

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Not really shady. He's a year from free agency and the opportunity to pick his team. Why should he sign in another city when Vegas wants him and he wants to play there? He doesn't owe the Flames anything and you can't fault a player for using their NTC to dictate where they land.

If Vegas doesn't have enough to offer then the Flames should just hold onto him until the trade deadline next season as he should fetch a decent return even as a pure rental.
Players usually look at a few options in free agency. It’s just shady that it’s Vegas involved again.

But again it’s the managements fault. Culture and sending the right message to the room bites us in the ass.
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Honestly if we can grab Vegas 26 and 27 first round picks for Andersson I would be thrilled.

Teams that build through free agency tend to implode at some point. Plus first round picks in the future can easily be traded for players as needed. Just not sure Vegas wants to mortgage that far out.
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Players usually look at a few options in free agency. It’s just shady that it’s Vegas involved again.

But again it’s the managements fault. Culture and sending the right message to the room bites us in the ass.
I don't blame players for wanting to go to Vegas considering the tax situation and a chance to win. It is the management and ownership that is most to blame.
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Honestly if we can grab Vegas 26 and 27 first round picks for Andersson I would be thrilled.

Teams that build through free agency tend to implode at some point. Plus first round picks in the future can easily be traded for players as needed. Just not sure Vegas wants to mortgage that far out.
We already have their 2026 1st from the Hanifin trade
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Old 06-30-2025, 07:36 PM   #494
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I'm pretty sure Vegas has zero prospects I'd want the Flames to acquire. I mean, do they have any that would slot into out top 5 at this point? Top 10 even?.
Top 5 Top 10? Who knows the Flames prospect pool is pretty good. But they do have two prospects I'd be interested in; Jakob Ihs-Wozniak selected one spot after Theo Stockselius over the weekend. The other would be 6th rounder from 2003 Tuomas Uronen.

Uronen is interesting as he put up similar numbers to Jacob Battaglia on the same Kingston team. Now he's a full year older than Battaglia but he was a huge breakout year for him. Came to the CHL with with the Ottawa 67s last year but was injured then traded to Kingston in the summer. Really settled in and was a star to end his CHL career. Would be an interesting pick up.

Those two prospects, an unprotected 1st from 2027 or 2028, or a combo of three of the four you get what I'm saying. The Knights don't have a lot of pieces to make it work but they have a few.
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Non-zero chance by limiting his options in an extension year that Andersson Klingberg’s himself and gives up a tonne of guaranteed money if he doesn’t have the season he wants. Can’t imagine his agent hasn’t highlighted this for him.

Despite this latest report, Flames still have quite a bit of leverage here, and should use that to maximize the return before the season.
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I think it's going to have to be a three way trade for this to get done for Vegas, they just don't have the assets

Also, I wonder if BigThief/FormerPresidentJamesTaylor/puckluck version 1-a bunch/a bunch of other banned accounts will ever clue in the only person reading his troll posts is himself seeing how everybody has him in ignore lol. It truly is amusing.
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Old 06-30-2025, 07:53 PM   #497
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Conroy has to consider another factor. Sending Andersson to Vegas for futures-driven deal helps Vegas improve, therefore weaking the value of the 2026 pick they have.
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Really don't think that should be a factor to be honest. Andersson is a good solid pick up for any team but he isn't going to move the needle from contender to bottom dweller. If Conroy gets a clearly better package from Vegas you take that then worrying about Vegas finishing two better spots with Rasmus than without.
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The best return is one that comes with him extended. It’s not a screw you too him sending him to Buffalo or something. We will get a pick and he can just walk. The only thing is he loses 2 years. If that’s the case I hope he gets a crappy contract as well.
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I don't blame players for wanting to go to Vegas considering the tax situation and a chance to win. It is the management and ownership that is most to blame.
Disagree. If you are unhappy and don’t see yourself here long term, show some integrity and ask for a trade. I don’t think Conny is a guy that will hold a player hostage and play hardball. I’m sure the opportunity has been presented to Rasmus to stay or move on. And if Conny is true to his word, he wants players who want to be here. Rasmus is showing his true colours and should have done this last offseason instead of screwing us now.
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Old 06-30-2025, 07:57 PM   #499
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If vegas knows there’s no competition why would they offer any value.

Screw Andersson. You’re going to Buffalo now. We’re getting Tage Thompson
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No different than a UFA who makes a choice where he wants to go.

He’s saying there is only one team he’ll sign a contract with, otherwise he’s content to go UFA.

Going to a place he doesn’t want to be at is hardly throwing a bone. It’s a life changing decision.
Sure it is. Those players typically field offers from a handful of teams they have interest in and choose what's best for them. Does he even know what Vegas is willing to sign him for? He shouldn't at this point.

It's not overly common that a player takes any offer from just one team without having some sort of ties to the city.

Again, nobody said he should be willing to sign an extension somewhere he doesn't want to be. I'll bet if Vegas didn't want him there would be many places he'd be happy to play. Or do you think he'd not sign anywhere else and retire because well, the only place he wants to be is Vegas? Let's be real here.

He's playing this like a dick, especially with the media leaks.
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