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Old 06-21-2021, 04:10 PM   #481
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Old 06-21-2021, 04:43 PM   #482
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Old 06-21-2021, 04:44 PM   #483
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Or here's an idea. With the Confederations Cup now defunct, why not invite the five other Confederation Champs to Euro? So you'd only need 27 European countries and not 32.

So for this tournament, we could have added, Brazil, Mexico, Qatar, Algeria and New Zealand. Then three more teams like Ireland, Iceland and Serbia. That would make a decent tournament and a nice carrot for winning your confederation.
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Old 06-21-2021, 04:57 PM   #484
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Or here's an idea. With the Confederations Cup now defunct, why not invite the five other Confederation Champs to Euro? So you'd only need 27 European countries and not 32.

So for this tournament, we could have added, Brazil, Mexico, Qatar, Algeria and New Zealand. Then three more teams like Ireland, Iceland and Serbia. That would make a decent tournament and a nice carrot for winning your confederation.
I've always said just invite brazil and the argies and let's do it every 2 years instead of 4
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I like Euro cup being the European countries only.

There are enough talented squads here that you don't need to invite teams from the other confederations. Plus it tends to have some more entertaining or exciting finals at times, and can have lots of upsets.

I look at the semi-finalists going back to 1992.

1992: Denmark, Germany, Netherlands, Sweden
1996: Germany, Czech, England, France
2000: France, Italy, Netherlands, Portugal
2004: Greece, Portugal, Czech, Netherlands,
2008: Spain, Germany, Russia, Turkey
2012: Spain, Italy, Germany, Portugal
2016: Portugal, France, Germany, Wales

Some pretty fun and exciting tournaments with some smaller nations in those groups. I'd rather keep Euro just as European nations and expand it to 32 for sure, or just go back to 16 and make even qualifying an achievement again.

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I've always said just invite brazil and the argies and let's do it every 2 years instead of 4

I used to not agree because FIFA are FIFA and UEFA are UEFA and the two shall not cross. But FIFA has now made the asinine decision of scraping the Confederations Cup for a 24-team World Club Cup. Who's going to watch this? Who's going to watch the 6th South American club play the 3rd African club in China? I can't even name 3 African clubs.

Nations are what draw people in. If I were UEFA, I would steal other national teams in an instant because they're not busy anymore.
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Old 06-21-2021, 05:14 PM   #487
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The talent is enough to boost it to 32 as well just european, others have already posted the teams that arent there, and no team has so far embarrassed themselves

The two tournaments that need to merge are the gold cup and copa america, into the copa Americas

South america gets the extra money from the us market, the us, mexico, and canada seem to be building something up and could be competitive somewhat now, and in a decade or so when maybe they can really compete the tournament has built up some real credibility
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So with mount very likely out tomorrow, can jack graelish get a start?

That athletic article today about their 'relationship' doesnt sound promising

Waiting for the one on sancho too

Imagine being so incredibly deep and world class that Jadon sancho hasn't played a minute in 2 games!

The greatest team in the world that must be! Right?!?...... right?!?!
Here's the jam from the Athletic Article. It sounds like Southgate has a case of the Pep's, in that he thinks he knows better than the rest. Makes me miss Roy.

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The talent is enough to boost it to 32 as well just european, others have already posted the teams that arent there, and no team has so far embarrassed themselves

The two tournaments that need to merge are the gold cup and copa america, into the copa Americas

South america gets the extra money from the us market, the us, mexico, and canada seem to be building something up and could be competitive somewhat now, and in a decade or so when maybe they can really compete the tournament has built up some real credibility

I mentioned this in the Canadian thread. This will never happen because the US will only accept if they host it every single time like the Gold Cup. CONCACAF has bent over backwards for the US but South America will not, they have their host rotation and their tradition.
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So, Croatia vs Scotland is confirmed as win and in, draw and both are out.

What’s the strategy for both teams if it’s tied late? Impromptu penalty kicks starting at the 80th minute?

Secret coin flip before the game, and the loser has to allow a goal just before the final whistle?
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It is debatable if Turkey and Russia are in Europe. Ukraine is on the line. Israel.

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So, Croatia vs Scotland is confirmed as win and in, draw and both are out.

What’s the strategy for both teams if it’s tied late? Impromptu penalty kicks starting at the 80th minute?

Secret coin flip before the game, and the loser has to allow a goal just before the final whistle?

Nothing. You just care if you make it, you don't really care if the other team makes it or not. So if it tied late, both teams just play it really wide open and if it ends in a tie, so be it.

This happened in the last Women's World Cup. Argentina came all the way back to knock both teams out.

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So, Croatia vs Scotland is confirmed as win and in, draw and both are out.

What’s the strategy for both teams if it’s tied late? Impromptu penalty kicks starting at the 80th minute?

Secret coin flip before the game, and the loser has to allow a goal just before the final whistle?
Not enough racism to pull a full on Gijon

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It is debatable if Turkey and Russia are in Europe. Ukraine is on the line. Israel.
Sorry meant more UEFA confederation only.

Don’t need teams from other confederations coming in.
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It is debatable if Turkey and Russia are in Europe. Ukraine is on the line. Israel.

The politest way to put it is that no one wants to play with Israel so the Europeans allow them into their confederation.

Turkey and Russia are geographically in Europe. Can’t argue that.
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The talent is enough to boost it to 32 as well just european, others have already posted the teams that arent there, and no team has so far embarrassed themselves

The two tournaments that need to merge are the gold cup and copa america, into the copa Americas

South america gets the extra money from the us market, the us, mexico, and canada seem to be building something up and could be competitive somewhat now, and in a decade or so when maybe they can really compete the tournament has built up some real credibility

This is the correct answer.

Euros should be 32 teams.

Gold Cup and Copa should merge into a 16 team tournament
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The politest way to put it is that no one wants to play with Israel so the Europeans allow them into their confederation.

Turkey and Russia are geographically in Europe. Can’t argue that.
Yeah if a French or German army can march their army to your capital, you're in Europe.
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The current 24 team format has produced a tournament without a single meaningless game.
That's amazing, dont change a thing.
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Yeah if a French or German army can march their army to your capital, you're in Europe.
Same rules should apply to the Concacaf.

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The current 24 team format has produced a tournament without a single meaningless game.
That's amazing, dont change a thing.
I feel the same, I think this format works well enough, not sure there is a huge reason to change it up.
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