[News] Flames offersheet O'Reilly UPDATE: Avs match

[Otto29]

Originally Posted by browna

Timing is very curious...why not in 12-18 hours, after you play that team? Because the Canucks had one out there too?

The Flames have gotten in at least one players head before the game. Not saying that's the reason but the fact that they are in Colorado does raise the chance of Feaster talking to Agents who may be there

[Husky]

Avs are forced to choose what to do cause in 2 years they have big RFAs to resign, Duschene and Landeskog wholl want the same money as RoR. Plus their goalie is an RFA. Plus stasny, Downie and McGinn are UFAs.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

Cammaleri and Stajan are the obvious buy outs. Bouwmeester is the obvious trade target.

Not worried about it.

I can't see Stajan being bought out. He's earning his pay cheque this year, and I suspect there would be teams willing to take on his contract if Feaster did want to move him.


Cammalleri is almost guaranteed to be bought out if he can't be traded. Kipper is also an option because it would cost virtually nothing and clear almost $6 million off the cap.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by BintonB

source?

Everyone on twitter that is a sports reporter.

[opendoor]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

People are actually concerned about a $6.5M qualifying offer in 2 years? Do people even know how RFAs work?

If the Flames qualify ROR in 2 years, yes, it will cost 6.5M per season.

But you DON'T HAVE TO QUALIFY AN RFA. You can simply re-sign players. The Flames will NOT be forced to pay ROR 6.5M.

Remember how it would have cost $2.5M to qualify Comeau this summer? How come that never happened?

I hope ROR plays to the quality of a $6.5M player in 2 years time, so I'd have no issue giving him that.

True, but if that's the thinking then it's a no brainer for Colorado to match.

[ClubFlames]

Originally Posted by EddyBeers

How big of an impact do Flames fans think a guy who has played 12 games in the last 11 months will have on the Flames chances in the final 27 games of the season?

Matt Moulson is Top 10 in NHL scoring and he never played anywhere during the lockout. ROR is younger and much better than him. I'm not too worried.

[sun]

Originally Posted by Yoho

Your all over the place man..

02-28-2013, 04:07 PM #276sun
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lol watch O'Reilly elevate us to 9th place and then Avs win the draft lottery with our pick.

haha yeah, just saying it would be just our luck. Worth the risk though, IMO.

[JurassicTunga12]

Can the avs take the picks like tomorrow? or do we have to wait 7 days?

[the_only_turek_fan]

Maybe the development of Jon Gudreau facilitated this deal.

Do the Flames feel he has first round ability?

[Anduril]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Yea. Guy that is holding out for more money will give the Flames a deal in his next contract and not see $6.8 as a starting point? Hahaha.

Good luck with that.

He'll have all the leverage. The Flames will have to offer him a QO because they gave up a first and third for 100 games of his play. If they don't he can walk and sign with whoever he wants.

If I were a Flames fan I'd be begging for the Avalanche to match this. $6.8 a season for O'Reilly is a terrible contract that will screw up their salary structure for years.

He was trying to hold out for $4M+ which most people thought was a tad high but could be negotiated down a bit. Colorado just played hard ball since they have a principle to stick to.
If O'Reilly does demand a lot more, we'll just ship him out since he's still a RFA for compensation in some form. He doesn't necessarily have all the leverage. And as mentioned, if he does play well then that's a problem I would love to have on this team.

[blankall]

Originally Posted by Rudee

C'mon now. He had one breakout season with 55 points. He had 26 points in both seasons prior that. Doesn't mean he's going to be a top line center and be able to produce those numbers consistently.

He also led the league in Takeaways with 101 and had only 34 giveaways. That's huge.

[flamesaresmokin]

Originally Posted by Oil Stain

Yea. Guy that is holding out for more money will give the Flames a deal in his next contract and not see $6.8 as a starting point? Hahaha.

Good luck with that.

He'll have all the leverage. The Flames will have to offer him a QO because they gave up a first and third for 100 games of his play. If they don't he can walk and sign with whoever he wants.

If I were a Flames fan I'd be begging for the Avalanche to match this. $6.8 a season for O'Reilly is a terrible contract that will screw up their salary structure for years.

What do you expect the flames to have offered him and also forced the avs to potentially let him walk then?

You have to overpay - at least Feaster did it on the short term and he can hopefully get him locked up on a better deal.

[EddyBeers]

Originally Posted by MrMastodonFarm

This isn't a move for the next two months only.

Relative to the draft position it is though. If one was a fan who thought this was a top 5 pick team before (like me) I just fail to see how big of an impact he will make in the final 27 games. I would imagine it really does not have a huge impact on where the Flames will pick at the end of the day.

I was just talking about his impact vs. where we draft. If he puts us over the top and makes a Stanley Cup favourite (like say if St. Louis signed him) then it is a 26th overall pick and a 86th overall pick. The value of this trade basically rides on the ability of this team to perform when it actually counts.

[Resolute 14]

Originally Posted by browna

Timing is very curious...why not in 12-18 hours, after you play that team? Because the Canucks had one out there too?

It seems unlikely that Feaster fired a fax off to O'Reilly's agent this morning. This has probably been in the works for a while - especially if the Canucks were also making offers - and it just got signed today. The player likely assessed his options for a few days before deciding to sign.

[Parallex]

Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan

I added a poll.

Vote on what you think the Avs will do, not what you hope they do.

Don't think they'll match, enough poison pillishness in there + incentives (possibility of lottery pick) to make them not bite on matching... of course I didn't think the Preds would match Weber either so what do I know.

[united]

Brilliant move by the Flames and one I didn't think they'd be willing to do. Very little downside here outside of the long shot the Flames pick top 3 in the draft. A Selke candidate is easily worth a 1st and a 3rd.

BOOM! Well done, Mr. Feaster.

[CaramonLS]

Originally Posted by Ashasx

People are actually concerned about a $6.5M qualifying offer in 2 years? Do people even know how RFAs work?

If the Flames pay a 1st, a 3rd and 10 million for 100 games of ROR, without getting any assets in return, that might go down as one of the worst franchise crippling moves in history.

[KootenayFlamesFan]

Originally Posted by JurassicTunga12

Can the avs take the picks like tomorrow? or do we have to wait 7 days?

They don't have to wait the 7 days, but if they are taking the picks it makes sense for them to wait as long as possible. No sense in doing the Flames any favors.

[mrdonkey]

It's a pretty easy decision for the Avs to take the picks. ROR has made it very clear he doesn't want to be there and the Avs have made it very clear they're not going to pay him $5 million. Plus, it's not like you're letting him walk for a 20-30 1st round pick; there's a very real chance that pick ends up in the top 10. (IMO it ends up being somewhere between 12 and 15, which I think would be a good trade for the Flames)

I would be very confused if they matched.

[BintonB]

Originally Posted by Otto29

The Flames have gotten in at least one players head before the game. Not saying that's the reason but the fact that they are in Colorado does raise the chance of Feaster talking to Agents who may be there

You do realize he hasn't played one game in the NHL this year yet, right?