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Old 06-21-2017, 05:18 PM   #461
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2 more rumored picks:

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Closing up some of the loose ends lingering out there. Believe #Vegas takes William Carrier from BUF and Jon Merrill from NJD.
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Old 06-21-2017, 05:21 PM   #462
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Has anyone more reputable confirmed Engelland yet?
Nope
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Old 06-21-2017, 05:22 PM   #463
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Cant wait to see what tomorrows trades bring becuase that is a poor on ice roster shaping up in Vegas so far.
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Is it possible for Vegas to select someone and sign someone else from that same team? Like, could they pick Brouwer, and then sign Engelland before July 1?
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Old 06-21-2017, 05:23 PM   #465
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Surprising that it's Merrill.

Cammalleri with only two years left would have made more sense to me. Guy that is a top 6 FWD that is entertaining for fans, that can be flipped for picks at a future deadline.
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Old 06-21-2017, 05:23 PM   #466
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Hearing that smooth-skating D Nate Schmidt is Vegas-bound...
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The Caps were talking with VKG to try and swing a deal to lay off taking Schmidt but price was deemed too high...
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No they'd have to wait until the 1st to sign Derek if that were the case. But thy could still negotiate with him before anyone else.
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Old 06-21-2017, 05:24 PM   #468
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That doesn't explain why you send Marchessault and Smith to Las Vegas though.

Only why they protected 4-4-1 to start with.

Edit: Mackenzie just tweeted that Marchessault had to be included to get Vegas to take Smith. Seems crazy that they needed to "throw in" a 30 goal scorer t get rid of that contract. I'll take that contract as a Flames fan.


Marchessault has scored 30 goals once - could he repeat, definitely - but let's not call it a slam dunk.

Jonathan Cheechoo once scored 56 goals.
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Is it possible for Vegas to select someone and sign someone else from that same team? Like, could they pick Brouwer, and then sign Engelland before July 1?
not unless the Flames traded Engelland's rights to Vegas.
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Doubt it. He has a full NTC

Is this true?

I was under the impression that it was a modified 10 team clause. That being said LV would likely be on that list anyhow.
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Jesus, Vegas really is taking all the defensemen.
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The Caps were talking with VKG to try and swing a deal to lay off taking Schmidt but price was deemed too high...
I bet the price for Washington to keep their player was higher than it was for other teams.
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Surprising that it's Merrill.

Cammalleri with only two years left would have made more sense to me. Guy that is a top 6 FWD that is entertaining for fans, that can be flipped for picks at a future deadline.
I know we've got Cammy fans here but that contract is horrible considering his age. No guarantee you could ever trade him. He's only getting older and slower and his numbers are nothing to write home about. That contract is an albatross IMO. Cammalleri doesn't help you when he's not scoring and 10 goals in 60 games indicates he may be on the way downhill

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That doesn't explain why you send Marchessault and Smith to Las Vegas though.

Only why they protected 4-4-1 to start with.

Edit: Mackenzie just tweeted that Marchessault had to be included to get Vegas to take Smith. Seems crazy that they needed to "throw in" a 30 goal scorer t get rid of that contract. I'll take that contract as a Flames fan.
FWIW Boston and now Florida have traded Smith shortly after signing him to a new contract... think there might be something going on behind the scenes.
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Is this true?

I was under the impression that it was a modified 10 team clause. That being said LV would likely be on that list anyhow.
According to CapFriendly it's true.

Full NTC in year 1 and 2
Modified NTC in year 3 and 4 (15 teams he can be traded to)
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Is this true?

I was under the impression that it was a modified 10 team clause. That being said LV would likely be on that list anyhow.
According to capfriendly it changes to a modified NTC in the last 2 years and is a full NTC til then
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Man, I could really see Neal being flipped to Calgary.

It's been reported Vegas has deals in place where they are getting picks from teams all the way out to 2019 and 2020. Maybe the Flames send a decent prospect and a conditional 2019 1st or 2nd round pick, depending on either team success with Neal, or his re-signing with Calgary.
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Man, I could really see Neal being flipped to Calgary.

It's been reported Vegas has deals in place where they are getting picks from teams all the way out to 2019 and 2020. Maybe the Flames send a decent prospect and a conditional 2019 1st or 2nd round pick, depending on either team success with Neal, or his re-signing with Calgary.
Yeah, seems like a good fit to me.
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I just want Brad to do something to address that issue. I'm tired of waiting through stop-gaps. Get a guy like Neal who you know can score and be done with it.
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According to capfriendly it changes to a modified NTC in the last 2 years and is a full NTC til then
Yikes...honestly had no idea that was the case.

Treliving must really be PO'd at him after this year.

I still hold hope he turns it around and think he can. He has been a terrific player in this league before and he isnt at an age that his body should be breaking down, but no question he was horrific last year.
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