07-10-2017, 10:25 PM
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#361
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Originally Posted by Zulu29
WTF? So now it's the governments fault that his dad who was buddies with OBL , was a psycho who took him to Afghanistan to be trained by Al Qaeda? Somehow that is the governments fault?
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no one suggested that. answer the question lol.
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07-10-2017, 10:27 PM
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#362
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Originally Posted by Resurrection
no one suggested that. answer the question lol.
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Read the caption, there was no question. Lol
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07-10-2017, 10:28 PM
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#363
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Originally Posted by Zulu29
In a case of something like 1st degree murder or treason? Yes.
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so sex, no dice. not old enough at 13. but at 13 you would expect children to know the nuances of treason? genius. you should be prime minister.
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07-10-2017, 10:29 PM
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#364
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Originally Posted by Resurrection
so sex, no dice. not old enough at 13. but at 13 you would expect children to know the nuances of treason? genius. you should be prime minister.
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Thanks for your vote, I look forward to your continued support in my future bid for PM. Also, ignorance is no excuse. If you commit treason it doesn't matter if you understand the deinition of it.
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07-10-2017, 10:31 PM
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#365
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Originally Posted by calgaryblood
Does this really need to be explained to you? He was a child. A child brain washed by his father.
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Omar’s teenage skill set included proficiency in the assembly of sophisticated improvised explosive devices.
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07-10-2017, 10:31 PM
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#366
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Originally Posted by Resurrection
so sex, no dice. not old enough at 13. but at 13 you would expect children to know the nuances of treason? genius. you should be prime minister.
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And sorry, sex? What are you talking about?
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07-10-2017, 10:33 PM
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#367
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Originally Posted by Zulu29
Thanks for your vote, I look forward to your continued support in my future bid for PM. Also, ignorance is no excuse. If you commit treason it doesn't matter if you understand the deinition of it.
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Then what's the point of treating children differently than adults, period?
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07-10-2017, 10:34 PM
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#368
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Originally Posted by Zulu29
And sorry, sex? What are you talking about?
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i asked about the age of consent and you didnt include it in your things you would move down to 13. want to take another swing? if you woudl try a 13 year old for murder would you allow a 13 year old to have sex with an 18 year old?
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07-10-2017, 10:35 PM
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#369
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I mean, shot in the dark, i know nothing about zulu29 as a poster, i cant say i recognize you. big Harper fan? maybe even a little tolerant of Trump?
Can I guess you lean heavily conservative?
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07-10-2017, 10:37 PM
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#370
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Originally Posted by Dion
Never said he deserved to be tortured.
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You implied it when you said he didn't deserve the money he received as a result of it.
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We don't know what damages a judge would have awarded because the Liberal govt didn't let the case go that far and instead chose to offer what they deemed a fair amount.
Let the elected officials pay for the damages. Taxpayers shouldn't be responsible for their screw ups.
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The legal advisors the government had working this case obviously must have felt there was a high probability of either the damages awarded would be more than $10M or that a combination of the damages and the litigation costs would be. Right or wrong they made the financially sensible route. Take the politics out of the equation, this is a legal matter, if the liberals made this decision based on the legal advice they were given then it was the right call.
As for having the elected officials pay for the damages, that's not how the system works and you are smart enough to know that.
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07-10-2017, 10:38 PM
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#371
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Lifetime Suspension
Join Date: Jul 2015
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Originally Posted by Dion
Omar’s teenage skill set included proficiency in the assembly of sophisticated improvised explosive devices.
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Yeah...you can teach a 13 year old to do a lot of things....
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07-10-2017, 10:39 PM
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#372
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Originally Posted by calgaryblood
Yeah...you can teach a 13 year old to do a lot of things....
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i think the next logical step is for underage sex slaves to start taking blame for their actions. if a 13 year old is talented enough to be a whore she clearly understands whats going on around her. either way ignorance is no excuse. its time for a crack down and for us to levy heavy penalties on underage sex "slaves" the world over.
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07-10-2017, 10:43 PM
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#373
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Originally Posted by PepsiFree
Then what's the point of treating children differently than adults, period?
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The VAST majority of crimes committed by youth can fall under the auspices of the YCJA and are dealt with informally the vast majority of the time. The case of Khadr is extraordinarily unique in the fact that it involves a youth actively conspiring against his home country by building devices to kill their soldiers. Frankly if you can't differentiate between him and a kid stealing a car then there is no point trying to discuss this issue with you.
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07-10-2017, 10:44 PM
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#374
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Originally Posted by Resurrection
I mean, shot in the dark, i know nothing about zulu29 as a poster, i cant say i recognize you. big Harper fan? maybe even a little tolerant of Trump?
Can I guess you lean heavily conservative?
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Voted for Trudeau. Hate terrorists. Try again.
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07-10-2017, 10:44 PM
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#375
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Originally Posted by MarchHare
Was Speer wearing a uniform that clearly indicated he was a medic? Didn't someone post earlier in this thread that he was wearing Afghan civilian clothing? Even if Khadr threw the grenade he was accused of throwing, how would he have known Speer was a medic?
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I haven't found any credible sources to confirm what uniform Speer had on.
It's a bit if a moot point. As Khadr would need to identify himself as a combatant, is be wearing a uniform himself which he was not, to engage in warfare
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07-10-2017, 10:46 PM
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#376
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Originally Posted by Dion
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They edited that quote. Why, I don't know, but what he really says is this:
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"I know what kind of a man on July 27th, 2002, and that was a hardened and determined and disciplined terrorist who was determined to inflict as much damage on US personnel and Canadian personnel as possible on his way out of this world, and that was my first impression and I've seen nothing to change my mind on that".
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To me that sounds like "we were about to kill this guy, and he had the gall to try to kill us".
They had bombed the hell out of the place he was in, obviously trying to kill him, and in response he didn't just die, and that was wrong of him. In a war.
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07-10-2017, 10:46 PM
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#377
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Originally Posted by calgaryblood
Yeah...you can teach a 13 year old to do a lot of things....
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A 13 year old can still be charged as a young offender under the YCJA.
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07-10-2017, 10:46 PM
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#378
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Originally Posted by Resurrection
i asked about the age of consent and you didnt include it in your things you would move down to 13. want to take another swing? if you woudl try a 13 year old for murder would you allow a 13 year old to have sex with an 18 year old?
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Age of consent is appropriate at 16 could possibly be moved higher. Your interpretation of the law in this instance seems to be skewed. The age of consent is designed to protect people under the age of 16 from sexual predators, not protect sexual predators under the age of 16
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07-10-2017, 10:48 PM
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#379
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Join Date: Mar 2006
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Originally Posted by Zulu29
Voted for Trudeau. Hate terrorists. Try again.
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That was your first mistake
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07-10-2017, 10:48 PM
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#380
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Originally Posted by Zulu29
Age of consent is appropriate at 16 could possibly be moved higher. Your interpretation of the law in this instance seems to be skewed. The age of consent is designed to protect people under the age of 16 from sexual predators, not protect sexual predators under the age of 16
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Why do they need protection?
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