03-11-2015, 02:11 PM
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#3521
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Maryland State House, Annapolis
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Calgary's never getting an MLS team until it can prove it can support lower levels of soccer. Montreal and Vancouver both had A-League teams before MLS, Toronto didn't, but it's Toronto and has more people and more people who like soccer (i.e. immigrants). Calgary isn't just going to get a team because it has a building for it.
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03-11-2015, 02:12 PM
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#3522
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Could Care Less
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
If they get a new stadium with 30k seating I think you see that group move to create a country music festival that coincides with the final weekend of stampede.
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The Stampede is a country music festival.
What about Olympic bid?
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03-11-2015, 02:19 PM
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#3523
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Franchise Player
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I've got to think that CSL would be the short-term goal if MLS is the long-term one.
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03-11-2015, 02:26 PM
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#3524
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: I'm right behind you
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperMatt18
If they get a new stadium with 30k seating I think you see that group move to create a country music festival that coincides with the final weekend of stampede.
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"Hey, you know that huge country culture that is based on the east side of downtown?"
"Yeah?"
"Well, it would be perfect if we scooped a portion of the available music acts and held a music festival on the west side of downtown!"
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03-11-2015, 02:34 PM
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#3525
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: San Fernando Valley
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Bumface
BC Place has 2 concerts scheduled between now and November, and maybe 2 conventions. Besides that, it's all MLS, CFL, and some Women's world cup.
https://www.bcplacestadium.com/index.php/calendar.html
That is for a city twice the size. Whatever the new arena is will host the bulk of concerts.
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Yeah but that stadium seats 60k which doesn't make sense for 98% of concerts. A 35K stadium could easily host concerts in the range of 15-25k and not have to compete with the arena scheduling in the winter. Scheduling in the winter is half the battle alone as a concert in the Saddledome in the winter has to fit between the Flames, Hitmen, Roughnecks, etc can be difficult to match with band tour schedules. In the winter this stadium would be pretty open for events.
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03-11-2015, 02:34 PM
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#3526
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Reaper
"Hey, you know that huge country culture that is based on the east side of downtown?"
"Yeah?"
"Well, it would be perfect if we scooped a portion of the available music acts and held a music festival on the west side of downtown!"
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Yah the best part of concerts during stampede is being able to walk the grounds before/after.
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03-11-2015, 02:44 PM
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#3527
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Pants Tent
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I would be so excited if Calgary got an MLS team!
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03-11-2015, 02:46 PM
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#3528
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Could Care Less
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kipper is King
I would be so excited if Calgary got an MLS team!
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...said nobody, ever.
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03-11-2015, 02:49 PM
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#3529
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Calgary, AB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by heep223
...said nobody, ever.
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That guy above you just said it
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03-11-2015, 02:50 PM
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#3530
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Medicine Hat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jimmy Stang
Is there a reason that they don't? Except for stubbornly holding onto tradition? I suppose that an argument could be made for avoiding the NHL playoffs on TV, but even then, you could still kickoff a couple of weeks earlier and have no conflicts.
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The prohibitive factors are the timing of the NFL draft and CFL draft, and CFL rookie camp and training camp.
As far as I know the current CFL schedule is not based on avoiding other sports TV match-ups (besides obvious avoidance of the NFL on Monday, Thursday and Sunday).
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03-11-2015, 02:54 PM
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#3531
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In the Sin Bin
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lol. And we're back to discussing the fantasy of Calgary getting into MLS for what - the third or fourth time - in this thread?
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03-11-2015, 02:55 PM
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#3532
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Winchestertonfieldville Jail
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We had an MLS team the Calgary Mustangs like 10 or more years ago.
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03-11-2015, 03:00 PM
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#3533
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Franchise Player
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So how long until more gets leaked?
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03-11-2015, 03:08 PM
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#3534
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Calgary Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robbob
So how long until more gets leaked?
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I thought King said a few weeks we will know whats going on...but then again who the hell knows.
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03-11-2015, 03:13 PM
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#3535
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Franchise Player
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I figure once the flames hand over anything to the city it will be next to impossible to maintain the secrecy. We need a city employee to go mission impossible and snap some pictures.
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03-11-2015, 03:23 PM
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#3536
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Franchise Player
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MLS has a very low chance of coming to Calgary as it stands today. Anyone who wants MLS in Calgary down the road better get their asses over to Hellard and support Calgary Foothills this summer, show them that pro soccer can survive here...
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03-11-2015, 03:25 PM
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#3537
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by skudr248
We had an MLS team the Calgary Mustangs like 10 or more years ago.
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No, we've never had an MLS team. The Calgary Mustangs were an A-League (the league eventually became the NASL / USL) team that drew a few hundred people in McMahon. Prior to joining the A-League they were one of the highest drawing clubs in PDL in 2001.
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03-11-2015, 03:38 PM
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#3538
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First Line Centre
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: YYC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by shermanator
MLS has a very low chance of coming to Calgary as it stands today. Anyone who wants MLS in Calgary down the road better get their asses over to Hellard and support Calgary Foothills this summer, show them that pro soccer can survive here...
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I think there is a chance to have an NASL team and a steady 5,000 followers to start. I wonder where those 20k+ attendance who once supported the Boomers have gone.
It is all about marketing.
And it is all about the passion at the grassroots. Foothills PDL is a good start.
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03-11-2015, 03:55 PM
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#3539
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Franchise Player
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I think you can make MLS work. Calgary continues to grow, and it's not just from Canadian transplants. Immigrants from other countries are nuts for soccer. Basically every country in the world except for Canada is nuts over soccer.
Maybe not right now, but in 5 to 10 years or so when Calgary finally has the new arena/stadium/entertainment district (al a Seattle, Glendale, LA Live) you could very easily get an MLS team and get 15 to 20k fans based on the fact that you have a shiny new stadium and an increased immigrant fan base.
Man I really hope the Flames and the City do this right and create an entertainment district with the arena/stadium that is the envy of the biggest cities in North America.
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03-11-2015, 04:02 PM
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#3540
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Medicine Hat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by calgarygeologist
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Interesting. Fewer comparable options out there than I expected, and most of them are baseball-only stadiums.
The four stadiums which look the most interesting/realistic as comparisons to a covered football stadium in Calgary are:
{warning: larger images behind spoiler tags}
Sapporo Dome
Location Sapporo, Japan
Sport(s) Baseball, soccer
Capacity 41,484 (soccer); 40,476 (baseball); 53,796 (max. with temporary seats)
Roof Domed
Date Opened June 3, 2001
Construction Cost unknown
Astana Arena
Location Astana, Kazakhstan
Sport(s) Soccer
Capacity 30,000
Roof Retractable
Date Opened July 3, 2009
Construction Cost $185 million
Tele2 Arena
Location Stockholm, Sweden
Sport(s) Soccer
Capacity 30,000 (soccer, seated); 33,000 (soccer, with standing); 45,000 (concerts)
Roof Retractable
Date Opened July 29, 2013
Construction Cost €290 million
Foolad Arena
Location Ahvaz, Iran
Sport(s) Soccer
Capacity 27,000 (soccer); 30,000 (concerts)
Roof Retractable
Date Opened July 1, 2015 (projected)
Construction Cost $400 million (projected)
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