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Old 04-12-2021, 01:48 PM   #301
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Seattle protection now looks like:

Lindholm, Johnny, Monahan, Mangiapane, Dube, Tkachuk, Backlund (assuming Lucic waives)
Tanev, Andersson, Hanifin
Markstrom

I think Gio is safe, but if not, it's OK. And the Flames should not call up Phillips - hide him from view.
Who has more value at the deadline next year, Gio or Backlund? Expose Backlund and protect Gio if you can flip him at the deadline?
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Old 04-12-2021, 01:50 PM   #302
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Schleprock again huh?

They added three assets to players that they probably lose for nothing. That's better.

You can select players with them, use them to move up.

No debate the organization is better.
Lol I guess you own the site so you can pick on whoever you like?

I never said it’s not a good trade, read all my posts

The statement is they are better TODAY, they lost a NHL player whether you like him or not. But yeah it’s better for the tank
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Old 04-12-2021, 01:50 PM   #303
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I hoping this means we get to see Ruzicka in the line-up, but I am expecting Froese.
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Old 04-12-2021, 01:53 PM   #304
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Lol I guess you own the site so you can pick on whoever you like?

I never said it’s not a good trade, read all my posts

The statement is they are better TODAY, they lost a NHL player whether you like him or not. But yeah it’s better for the tank
You feel picked on when I respond to abject negativity in all your one liners?

Think you should take a little ownership in that.

If the team was heading to the playoffs these moves would not make the team better today for sure, but we all know they're not so to suggest they're not better when they removed players they are likely to lose for nothing for substantially more is literally trying to find a negative in something that can't possibly be negative.
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Old 04-12-2021, 01:55 PM   #305
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My biggest disappointment is that Heineman is a Left shot.
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Old 04-12-2021, 01:55 PM   #306
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Old 04-12-2021, 01:56 PM   #307
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Lol I guess you own the site so you can pick on whoever you like?

I never said it’s not a good trade, read all my posts

The statement is they are better TODAY, they lost a NHL player whether you like him or not. But yeah it’s better for the tank
Wait - you thought they were going to add? That's the only way they get "better" under your definition.
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Old 04-12-2021, 01:57 PM   #308
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We may never get a right winger
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Old 04-12-2021, 01:57 PM   #309
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Who has more value at the deadline next year, Gio or Backlund? Expose Backlund and protect Gio if you can flip him at the deadline?
Teams can protect 7 forwards and 3 defencemen (or alternatively 8 skaters in total, i.e. 4+4). Protecting Gio instead of Backlund isn't an option unless you want to expose two additional forwards.
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Tre sent this video to Florida to get them to bite....

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NM explained above.
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Old 04-12-2021, 01:59 PM   #312
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Teams can protect 7 forwards and 3 defencemen (or alternatively 8 skaters in total, i.e. 4+4). Protecting Gio instead of Backlund isn't an option unless you want to expose two additional forwards.
Yeah the 8 skaters option rarely makes sense - what team is so super deep at D and weak up front where they want to protect less players.
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Old 04-12-2021, 02:01 PM   #313
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Flames make it official and yes the Flames are sending a 6th to the panthers as well. The 2nd the Flames are receiving is for 2022

https://www.nhl.com/flames/news/flam...ck/c-323564894

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The Calgary Flames have acquired prospect Emil Heineman and a second round pick in the 2022 NHL Draft from Florida in exchange for Sam Bennett and a sixth round pick in the 2022 NHL Draft.

Heineman, a second round pick of the Florida Panthers in 2020, spent the last two seasons with Leksands IF where he has played 54 games scoring seven goals and adding eight assists for 15 points. Emil represented Sweden at the 2021 IIHF World Junior Championship.
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My biggest disappointment is that Heineman is a Left shot.
Well who knows what the team will look like by the time either of these prospects makes the Flames
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Old 04-12-2021, 02:04 PM   #315
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Treliving seemed to make a comment that the picks obtained could be used for currency post expansion draft.
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Getting a 2nd for Bennett is a really good pick up.

Decent day for Tre.
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Old 04-12-2021, 02:12 PM   #317
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Panthers GM Bill Zito on Sam Bennett: “A skilled and versatile forward who plays the game with a great level of competitiveness, physicality and leadership. He is a young player who possesses solid experience in the post-season and will be an exciting addition to our lineup.”
Ummmm....ok.
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Old 04-12-2021, 02:16 PM   #318
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I agree with keeping Phillips as hidden as possible if we aren't going to protect him. Otherwise, play him now with as much opportunity as possible, to see if he's worth protecting over Backlund.
I think we can slow the hype train on Phillips for a bit. I was on and wanted to see him called up earlier, but his recent production has tempered my expectations a lot. An intriguing prospect for sure, but after a fast start, he now sits with only 16 points in 22 games.

For a player that small, he needs to be producing offense consistently. Mangiapane and Dube never went through dry spells like this after their rookie year in the AHL. That's probably a good barometer on where Phillips stands.

I don't think we have to worry about Seattle picking Phillips. Surely, the Flames have better assets to choose from.
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Phillips' production has faltered but his game hasn't.

He'll be fine. Time to give him a look.
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Old 04-12-2021, 02:18 PM   #320
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Flames will be charmin soft after Seattle claims Lucic.

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Except think what doors Bennett + Lucic' salaries open for the Flames.
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