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				It is a difficult task to single out one particular soldier to honour by naming ths bridge. 
  
There is a very nice memorial in Central Park on 4th St and 11th Ave SW.. perhaps there should be one like that in Peace park, naming the fallen soldiers that have hailed from Calgary? 
			
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I think that is exactly the problem...nothing against Hornburg at all, but why him and why not Nichola Goddard?
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-28-2009, 10:31 AM
			
			
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				Thats a better idea, plus the last name sounds good. 
			
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You just like it cause it sounds like horny. And "burg" means city. It's a city of perverts.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-28-2009, 10:33 AM
			
			
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			Taxpayers hate everything that the city spends money on.. 
 
Like the C-Train West leg. They don't want it underground, they don't want it above grade, they done want it at grade.. people just bitch.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-28-2009, 10:38 AM
			
			
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				I think that is exactly the problem...nothing against Hornburg at all, but why him and why not Nichola Goddard? 
			
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I do agree. I knew Nathan and that's why I showed support for someone thinking of him to be honored by a bridge in his name. I think the thing that gets most people is that the name 'Peace Bridge' really isn't enough because: 
  
1) There already is a peace bridge in Canada, among other things that are called 'Peace ______' like the Peace arch
  
2) Peace is really too generic to really and truly honor our troops, and reeks of trying to come down on all four sides of the issue. 
  
I have no idea why we couldn't have called it 'Calgary Highlander Bridge,' 'Rememberance Bridge,' or something else that specifically honors the troops. 
  
I also realize the fact that we're talking about this instead of the cost shows that Bronco is a brilliant politician.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-28-2009, 10:40 AM
			
			
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				Taxpayers hate everything that the city spends money on.. 
  
Like the C-Train West leg. They don't want it underground, they don't want it above grade, they done want it at grade.. people just bitch. 
			
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I think that was more of a NIMBY thing as opposed to being against spending money on transit. What the biggest opponents of the original alignment wanted would have cost much more and provided much less function, all to keep an 'unsightly C-Train line' out of view from  their
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			07-28-2009, 10:48 AM
			
			
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				I think that was more of a NIMBY thing as opposed to being against spending money on transit. What the biggest opponents of the original alignment wanted would have cost much more and provided much less function, all to keep an 'unsightly C-Train line' out of view from their property. 
			
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No.. taxpayers bitch about EVERYTHING that the city spends money on.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-28-2009, 11:00 AM
			
			
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				No one but us brings the bin in though, they are there all week long along with the garbage. 
			
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Hmm. 
 I leave mine in the alley all the time. I even built up a compacted gravel sub-base and curb for it  and the rumored 'brown bin' that'll be coming within two years. I think they look progressive, although I live a mortar-round away from Forrest Lawn, where getting the car off it's blocks on the front lawn is progressive.
 
On this topic: More inner-city bridge development!  
Plus get me a 17th Ave SE/Foothills Industrial C-train line. I think a lot of Calgary's working poor would make excellent use of such a line...while getting in on the subsidization train.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			07-28-2009, 11:01 AM
			
			
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				No.. taxpayers bitch about EVERYTHING that the city spends money on. 
			
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Especially in Calgary.  It's a throwback to the no-debt, fiscal conservative culture.  This was fostered by the agrarian roots of the province and the mass evictions from the land in the 1930s where indebted farmers lost everything. 
 
Basically, at the heart we're all country bumpkins and philistines.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-28-2009, 11:29 AM
			
			
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			07-28-2009, 11:38 AM
			
			
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			As I said before, I think the "Peace Bridge" name is pretty blah. As others have already said, we already have a very well know Peace Bridge in Canada.  
 
IMO, a much better name would have been "Freedom Bridge" 
 
That is what our soldiers over in Afghanistan are fighting for and what all our soldiers in past conflicts have fought for. 
 
Besides, the name "Freedom Bridge" would have a connection with Operation Enduring Freedom in Afghanistan, of which Canada is a participant.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-28-2009, 11:40 AM
			
			
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			Not to troll, but seriously, who ****ing cares if the bridge is called the peace, freedom or petunia bridge?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-28-2009, 11:50 AM
			
			
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			I think that the name should be "Red Herring" because people are up in arms about a mere 22 million when there are much larger expenditures that actually impact the municipal and city budgets, but instead were talking about this and what it should be called!
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-28-2009, 11:52 AM
			
			
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			How much is the new ring road going to cost?  Should that money be put to better purposes?  Who will benefit?
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-28-2009, 11:58 AM
			
			
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			"Freedom Bridge" would sound too BS Nouveau American Patriotism for me.  Canada has a long standing history of peacekeeping missions, much longer than this current tour in Afghanistan.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-28-2009, 12:02 PM
			
			
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				"Freedom Bridge" would sound too BS Nouveau American Patriotism for me.  Canada has a long standing history of peacekeeping missions, much longer than this current tour in Afghanistan. 
			
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O Canada! 
Our home and native land! 
True patriot love in all thy sons command.
 
With glowing hearts we see thee rise, 
The True North strong and  free!
 
From far and wide, 
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
 
God keep our land glorious and  free! 
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
 
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
 
I looked but not once did I see the word Peace in our national anthem. I did however see the word Free. Not once, but twice.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-28-2009, 12:06 PM
			
			
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				No, that's the same as saying "Flames fans bitch when Sutter goes over the cap then bitch when he signs lots of players to big contracts".  You are right they are all taxpayers like all four sided shapes are quadrilaterals, but actually different people bitch about different spending.  I bitch loudly on things that I don't want like all overpasses to new areas but welcome things I can use. 
  
I would much rather go to a more user pay system like the alderman always threat, but since thats never happening I just want my share like the rest of us greedy s. 
			
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But for everything that you don't bitch about, there is someone else to bitch about it. So in effect, all taxpayers at some point in time are bitching. Thereby my point is correct. Taxpayers, not necessarily all of them at the same time, will bitch about EVERYTHING the city does.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			07-28-2009, 12:07 PM
			
			
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				No, that's the same as saying "Flames fans bitch when Sutter goes over the cap then bitch when he signs lots of players to big contracts". You are right they are all taxpayers like all four sided shapes are quadrilaterals, but actually different people bitch about different spending. I bitch loudly on things that I don't want like all overpasses to new areas but welcome things I can use. 
  
I would much rather go to a more user pay system like the alderman always threat, but since thats never happening I just want my share like the rest of us greedy s. 
			
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When I become mayor. I'll have that bridge demolished and melted down to make rebar for a new overpass in my neighbourhood.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-28-2009, 12:08 PM
			
			
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				I think that the name should be "Red Herring" because people are up in arms about a mere 22 million when there are much larger expenditures that actually impact the municipal and city budgets, but instead were talking about this and what it should be called! 
			
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The Red Foreman bridge.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-28-2009, 12:08 PM
			
			
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				O Canada! 
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With glowing hearts we see thee rise, 
The True North strong and free! 
 
From far and wide, 
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee. 
 
God keep our land glorious and free! 
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee. 
 
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee. 
 
 
 
I looked but not once did I see the word Peace in our national anthem. I did however see the word Free. Not once, but twice. 
			
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wow.
 
Guard is in there THREE times, lets name it the guard bridge!
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			07-28-2009, 12:10 PM
			
			
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				wow. 
 
Guard is in there THREE times, lets name it the guard bridge! 
			
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Good idea!... or perhaps The Guardian Bridge. I can live with the Guardian Bridge name.
 
Good thinking Nik.... see everybody... its not true what you've all been saying about him.   
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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