[Trade] [CGY/FLA] Drew Shore for Corban Knight

[Lumby Lager]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

^ Exactly

If you have any NHL caliber offensive talents, you'll generate points like crazy down there because most defenses are terrible. Arnold and Hanowski have shown that at times, but not consistently. That's most of the difference between guys that have top 6 upside (Poirier) and those that are looking like quality bottom 6ers. Poirier is consistently dangerous.

Age also matters. Anyone over 25 should be a good scorer or is just a roster plug.

Agree with your opinion on Hanowski but what gives you the impression that Arnold is inconsistent, he has 21 points in only 39 games as a rookie?

[Caged Great]

Originally Posted by Lumby Lager

Agree with your opinion on Hanowski but what gives you the impression that Arnold is inconsistent, he has 21 points in only 39 games as a rookie?

Arnold has had stretches of games where he didn't generate much. In his first 10 games he only had 4 assists, then went at a PPG pace over the next 5, and has only 12 in the 24 since.

It's also not entirely about results in terms of points, some games Arnold hasn't been as noticeable out there. Even when Poirier isn't putting points on the board, he is basically their Gaudreau as he's the most dynamic guy almost all the time.

[Erick Estrada]

Originally Posted by dash_pinched

For what it's worth, Tony Gallagher of The Province thought the trade of Knight for Shore was a nice move by Calgary (and was wondering why Canucks GM Jim Benning didn't pull the trigger on a trade).

Then again, perhaps the malaise extends to Canuck management as well. You would have to wonder where they were on the Drew Short deal when the Panthers gave up the big young righthanded centre for just Corban Knight due to the fact they have so many good, healthy centres these days. Panthers GM Dale Tallon had nothing but good things to say about the 2009 draft and he appears to be pretty much exactly what Vancouver could use right now.

The Flames were walking on air with the deal Saturday night but apparently the Canucks were less enthused, despite the long term black hole which exists up the middle behind Henrik Sedin and Bo Horvat when another solid prospect would appear to have been just what the doctor ordered.

http://www.theprovince.com/sports/ho...487/story.html

Good grief that was hard to read. IMO the Canucks have played better than I expected this season given their age and talent level but if you didn't know their record and just went off this garbage piece you would think Gallagher was reporting on the Oilers.

[Lumby Lager]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

Arnold has had stretches of games where he didn't generate much. In his first 10 games he only had 4 assists, then went at a PPG pace over the next 5, and has only 12 in the 24 since.

It's also not entirely about results in terms of points, some games Arnold hasn't been as noticeable out there. Even when Poirier isn't putting points on the board, he is basically their Gaudreau as he's the most dynamic guy almost all the time.

Poirier should be a more dynamic and noticeable player just based on projections and draft position alone. Thanks for the info and opinion as I don't follow the AHL much and have never seen a game and I know you are more invested in it

[ForeverFlameFan]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

Arnold has had stretches of games where he didn't generate much. In his first 10 games he only had 4 assists, then went at a PPG pace over the next 5, and has only 12 in the 24 since.

It's also not entirely about results in terms of points, some games Arnold hasn't been as noticeable out there. Even when Poirier isn't putting points on the board, he is basically their Gaudreau as he's the most dynamic guy almost all the time.

I still think Arnold will become a quality bottom 6 center for us, I always felt that he was the better player when it came down to him and Knight.

[Caged Great]

I know it sounds like I'm down on Arnold, it's actually quite the opposite. I see a lot of the same traits that Backlund has in terms of intelligence on the ice, and the ability to do things properly. He might not have the raw ability to be a top 6 center at the NHL level, but I think he could be one of the better 3rd line centers in a couple years. He's very good and is able to play well with skilled players, something that is hard to find outside of similarly talented forwards.

[Lumby Lager]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

I know it sounds like I'm down on Arnold, it's actually quite the opposite. I see a lot of the same traits that Backlund has in terms of intelligence on the ice, and the ability to do things properly. He might not have the raw ability to be a top 6 center at the NHL level, but I think he could be one of the better 3rd line centers in a couple years. He's very good and is able to play well with skilled players, something that is hard to find outside of similarly talented forwards.

No need to post this...I look at it as the whole team sucked for the first ten, he went on a 5 game tear and then settled in at a good pace for what is expected of him. It is probably explained by just a rookie getting used to the pro game. At the end of the day it is inconsistent performance and not you ragging on him.

[bob-loblaw]

Originally Posted by dash_pinched

For what it's worth, Tony Gallagher of The Province thought the trade of Knight for Shore was a nice move by Calgary (and was wondering why Canucks GM Jim Benning didn't pull the trigger on a trade).

Then again, perhaps the malaise extends to Canuck management as well. You would have to wonder where they were on the Drew Short deal when the Panthers gave up the big young righthanded centre for just Corban Knight due to the fact they have so many good, healthy centres these days. Panthers GM Dale Tallon had nothing but good things to say about the 2009 draft and he appears to be pretty much exactly what Vancouver could use right now.

The Flames were walking on air with the deal Saturday night but apparently the Canucks were less enthused, despite the long term black hole which exists up the middle behind Henrik Sedin and Bo Horvat when another solid prospect would appear to have been just what the doctor ordered.

http://www.theprovince.com/sports/ho...487/story.html

He writes like the Canucks are playing like the Oilers - only the Oilers are that bad. He could at least try to spell Shore's name right. Vancouver reporters are no good?

Glad to read that the Flames are happy to get Shore and that a lot of other teams are mad that they missed him.

[GioforPM]

Originally Posted by Caged Great

I know it sounds like I'm down on Arnold, it's actually quite the opposite. I see a lot of the same traits that Backlund has in terms of intelligence on the ice, and the ability to do things properly. He might not have the raw ability to be a top 6 center at the NHL level, but I think he could be one of the better 3rd line centers in a couple years. He's very good and is able to play well with skilled players, something that is hard to find outside of similarly talented forwards.

Probably learned that at Boston College