Alberta Politics & Government Thread 3.0

[direwolf]

Just saw that the separatist losers had a rally in Edmonton today. Thankfully it appears that these morons didn't get much media coverage, but I did just see a short clip on CBC where they interviewed some jackass wearing a hat that said "Alberta USA".

My god, these people are dips***s. The fact that some of them think that they'd be better off joining the U.S. just shows how much they've thought this through. F'n idiots.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by CFO

So many gov people should be fired for the coal screw up. Never given a pension and banned from any political or government job ever again

Do you mean politicians or employees?

[CFO]

Originally Posted by edslunch

Do you mean politicians or employees?

Anyone involved period.

[curves2000]

Originally Posted by undercoverbrother

Hahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahaha

Armed Forces getting preferential treatment


Hahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahaha


Two and a half years and I’ve heard nothing from VAC (I own some for not following up) but please stop making #### up

Hahahahahhahahahahhahahahahahbahabababab

It's shameful how this country treats veterans and members of the military, governments and Canadian's should demand more. You and many others deserve way better and I thank you for your service.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by CFO

Anyone involved period.

The politicians made the decisions, no?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by curves2000

It's shameful how this country treats veterans and members of the military, governments and Canadian's should demand more. You and many others deserve way better and I thank you for your service.

So you would say they don’t, in fact, get preferential treatment and you did kind of just make it up.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by curves2000

I know this is a AB politics thread, but Canada's system does a decent job of rationing care across the board. Average Joe is bottom of the list and a lot of other people including VIP's are at the top. This isn't some opinion, it's actually the way the system operates. MP's, MLA, athletes, RCMP, Armed forces, Workers compensation claims, insurance claims and more get preferential treatment. That is the way it's suppose to work.

We pretend like we don't do it and not a lot of people talk about it or think about it but it's the harsh reality. We have allowed this to happen because Canada and Canadian provinces don't properly fund healthcare. We effectively throw BS money at the issue and hope for the best.

WCB claimants get preferential treatment in medical care?

no.

Insurance claims get preferential treatment in medical care?

no.

I would guess the majority of MLAs and MPs (of a certain party) as well as athletes use private health care - which is a growing sector in Alberta as the government continues to underfund the system.

[puffnstuff]

Somebody is upset about his recall petition

https://bsky.app/profile/thebreakdow.../3m44luxfam22a

[Looch City]

Haha shut the #### up you stupid ####. You get what you deserve if it passes.

God, I'm so tired of these snowflake ####s.

Reap what you sow and kindly, F uck off.

[5abi]

What I don’t get is why we don’t have a party that is about maximizing albertas economic advantage m, of oil and gas, while reinvesting that income into improved health and education among other public services.

[Major Major]

Originally Posted by 5abi

what i don’t get is why we don’t have a party that is about maximizing albertas economic advantage m, of oil and gas, while reinvesting that income into improved health and education among other public services.

ndp

[iggy_oi]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

Somebody is upset about his recall petition

https://bsky.app/profile/thebreakdow.../3m44luxfam22a

Who wrote this letter for him Ralph Wiggum?

I can’t imagine how a politician who’s being threatened with being recalled would think it’s a good idea to send out a letter that points out the fact that they didn’t even get over 50% of votes in the last election and then declaring that to be a strong mandate.

Near the end he states that he remains committed to the mandate he has been given and then follows that up by saying he commits to representing his constituents with “dignity, respects and integrity”. One would’ve hoped that someone serving their second term in office would have said they were remaining committed to those things as well

[Fuzz]

Hey, he beat his competitor by 623 votes out of 26,676. He has earned the right to be over-confident.

[curves2000]

Originally Posted by PepsiFree

So you would say they don’t, in fact, get preferential treatment and you did kind of just make it up.

I believe the poster is a former armed forces veteran who may be dealing with typical government garbage related to veteran services and healthcare in Canada.

Members of the Canadian military have preferential priority for things like surgical wait times. It's logical, you can't have CF-18 pilots and elite military snipers off duty while the Canadian healthcare system waits 2+ years for some surgical procedures.

Do you think MP's, MLA's, Governor General, military brass all have the same wait time as regular Joe ? Of course not, it's not because they are connected it's because they are priority.

The same system applies to professional athletes in Canada. They aren't flown to the US for treatment or put into the triage system. They are treated and given surgery by publicly paid Dr's, in public hospitals using public resources. What happens when a Calgary Flame needs ACL surgery? It's an operating room and resources in a local hospital that takes away operating time for locals. Occasionally it may be at a local private owned surgical center that are popping up in AB and being funded by AHS but that is a different conversation. It's not being done in the hallway off the Dome.

When I said we do a decent job of rationing care in Canada, it's the truth. We pretend that we don't but for budgetary reasons we have to. That is why the wait times are what they are. You properly fund treatment times and have them occur an massively increased rates, you get the wait time down

[para transit fellow]

Originally Posted by curves2000

I know this is a AB politics thread, but Canada's system does a decent job of rationing care across the board. Average Joe is bottom of the list and a lot of other people including VIP's are at the top. This isn't some opinion, it's actually the way the system operates. MP's, MLA, athletes, RCMP, Armed forces, Workers compensation claims, insurance claims and more get preferential treatment. That is the way it's suppose to work.

We pretend like we don't do it and not a lot of people talk about it or think about it but it's the harsh reality. We have allowed this to happen because Canada and Canadian provinces don't properly fund healthcare. We effectively throw BS money at the issue and hope for the best.

insurance claims have priority?
I think i need you to describe what sorts of healthcare is covered by insurance claims?

[wireframe]

Im convinced that the Forever Canada petition exists to collect voter information for a reformed PC party run next election. Thomas Lukaszuk probably has a goal beyond getting Danielle Smith to dismiss the petition in the legislature. As a sane Albertan, I'm thrilled. A strong PC party is the best path to getting rid of the UCP. If this petition helps them do it, great.

[Reggie Dunlop]

Originally Posted by wireframe

Im convinced that the Forever Canada petition exists to collect voter information for a reformed PC party run next election. Thomas Lukaszuk probably has a goal beyond getting Danielle Smith to dismiss the petition in the legislature. As a sane Albertan, I'm thrilled. A strong PC party is the best path to getting rid of the UCP. If this petition helps them do it, great.

Lukaszuk doesn't get that info. That goes straight to Elections Alberta. Some pretty strict rules around confidentiality.

He used his old PC Leadership campaign mailing lists to kick-start the Forever Canadian initiative. He may use the database of petition volunteers though and probably will. I have no doubt he has other ambitions.

[btimbit]

Has there been any talk of him joining the Alberta Party/PC's? I know Guthrie and Sinclair did. Could see him going for a leadership bid

[undercoverbrother]

Originally Posted by curves2000

I believe the poster is a former armed forces veteran who may be dealing with typical government garbage related to veteran services and healthcare in Canada.

Members of the Canadian military have preferential priority for things like surgical wait times. It's logical, you can't have CF-18 pilots and elite military snipers off duty while the Canadian healthcare system waits 2+ years for some surgical procedures.

Do you think MP's, MLA's, Governor General, military brass all have the same wait time as regular Joe ? Of course not, it's not because they are connected it's because they are priority.

The same system applies to professional athletes in Canada. They aren't flown to the US for treatment or put into the triage system. They are treated and given surgery by publicly paid Dr's, in public hospitals using public resources. What happens when a Calgary Flame needs ACL surgery? It's an operating room and resources in a local hospital that takes away operating time for locals. Occasionally it may be at a local private owned surgical center that are popping up in AB and being funded by AHS but that is a different conversation. It's not being done in the hallway off the Dome.

When I said we do a decent job of rationing care in Canada, it's the truth. We pretend that we don't but for budgetary reasons we have to. That is why the wait times are what they are. You properly fund treatment times and have them occur an massively increased rates, you get the wait time down

"Elite Military Snipers"




For Phucks Sake

[Wormius]

Originally Posted by Looch City

Haha shut the #### up you stupid ####. You get what you deserve if it passes.

God, I'm so tired of these snowflake ####s.

Reap what you sow and kindly, F uck off.

I know. These guys had no problem with petty grievances being the reason for a recall campaign. I think they were expecting this though, which is why they only allow one recall petition. So they’ll probably do a lame duck attempt on themselves as defense.