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Old 06-22-2023, 12:15 PM   #181
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If the team loses two of its top-three centres and one of its top-three defenseman, they are not just filling those spots internally. This is silly.

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Never said they would... chill

Was just thinking out loud what the roster would look like if we did fill internally, just to know what we have. Of course they'll probably sign a few free agents to fill spots... or like others have suggested, keep guys like Toffoli, Tanev, and Markstrom until the trade deadline.
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Old 06-22-2023, 12:16 PM   #182
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You do realize you aren't helping arguments against rebuilding when you say you would take an expansion roster over the current Flames roster?
Uhhh... so what?
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Old 06-22-2023, 12:17 PM   #183
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Kings didn't take that long nor have the last couple of expansion teams that started with nothing outside of a roster of castoffs.
Can't compare the expansion teams, they were each given 30 NHL players.

The Kings have been fortunate to have only been at it for 5 years, but they are very much at the short end, and it's still a bit of a work in progress.
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Old 06-22-2023, 12:20 PM   #184
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I'm excited just for change. These guys can't get it done. I would rather watch a new crew try to figure it out with a new coach than watch this ####show again.
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Old 06-22-2023, 12:22 PM   #185
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We might get our rebuild simply because players are going to force us into it
One might argue Johnny and Chucky already did, yet here we are, no Bedard
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Old 06-22-2023, 12:23 PM   #186
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I hope all 3 guys are sorted out in the summer rather then go into next season with them. The last thing we need is this giant cloud hovering over the team, knowing the guys have one foot out the door already.
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Old 06-22-2023, 12:28 PM   #187
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There was a rumor from Ryan Leslie that Backs asked for a trade last summer but recanted it so it isn’t surprising he doesn’t want to sign back
He’s asked the last two seasons.
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Old 06-22-2023, 12:30 PM   #188
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Can anyone remind me what year our first goes to MTL??
Another kick in the nuts if we go the rebuild path
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Old 06-22-2023, 12:32 PM   #189
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I hope this means we get at least one more first this draft.
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Old 06-22-2023, 12:32 PM   #190
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Old 06-22-2023, 12:34 PM   #191
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I'm excited just for change. These guys can't get it done. I would rather watch a new crew try to figure it out with a new coach than watch this ####show again.
Yep this is where I am. Yes losing Backlund will undoubtable be a step back but he's old and I think Dube/Ruzicka can be a 3C if given some consistency.
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Old 06-22-2023, 12:34 PM   #192
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I'm excited just for change. These guys can't get it done. I would rather watch a new crew try to figure it out with a new coach than watch this ####show again.

Yeah I'm excited to see the young guys, Coronato, Pelletier and Wolf, even if the season won't be that great. And who knows what trades they make or UFA signings.
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Old 06-22-2023, 12:35 PM   #193
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I would think an older player like Backlund would be better traded at the deadline. But this UFA class and particular lack of centers (and blueliners) maybe means we get something solid for him now.
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Old 06-22-2023, 12:38 PM   #194
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I'd be entirely fine with a forced rebuild.

Watching a Flames team that sucks for a couple of years but is loaded with young, hopefully promising and improving players would be far more fun to me than what we watched last year.
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Old 06-22-2023, 12:39 PM   #195
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I highly doubt Treliving is a spiteful guy and smiling right now at the Flames situation but I bet he's feeling really, really good about his decision to move on from the Flames right now.
I'm not sure Tre's in that much of a better situation with the Leafs. Looking at capfriendly, Leafs have even more guys hitting UFA in the next year or so. I'd say Leaf's are in a similar situation as the Flames, except with 10X the media scrutiny.
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Old 06-22-2023, 12:42 PM   #196
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Ultimately the Canadiens will likely get Florida’s 1st rounder in 2025.
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Old 06-22-2023, 12:44 PM   #197
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I'm excited just for change. These guys can't get it done. I would rather watch a new crew try to figure it out with a new coach than watch this ####show again.
We don't have the old core, Flames need to look long term and build a solid base. Between the old core and the coaching hires we just didn't get it done.
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Old 06-22-2023, 12:45 PM   #199
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Old 06-22-2023, 12:49 PM   #200
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Can't compare the expansion teams, they were each given 30 NHL players.

The Kings have been fortunate to have only been at it for 5 years, but they are very much at the short end, and it's still a bit of a work in progress.
The Kings work in progress is very close to where the Flames hit their ceiling in their win-now mode. They are looking down at the current Flames.
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