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PepsiFree · 03-10-2026, 08:05 PM

Kind of funny that in a thread about misinformation there are several people just outright making things up or presenting conclusions with legitimately terrible amateur research methods.

It’s basically like watching people talk about the effectiveness of the COVID vaccine based on whether they personally got COVID or not.

We’ve learned a lot as a society. Glad so few here bothered to put literally any meaningful effort into forming their opinions on this.

calgarygeologist · 03-10-2026, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason14h

You have an unnatural affliction towards Bluesky . You should probably delete the app for a while

He has Trump Derangement Syndrome and also Musk Derangement Syndrome and he needs Bluesky for a daily dopamine hit.

Jason14h · 03-10-2026, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Kind of funny that in a thread about misinformation there are several people just outright making things up or presenting conclusions with legitimately terrible amateur research methods.

It’s basically like watching people talk about the effectiveness of the COVID vaccine based on whether they personally got COVID or not.

We’ve learned a lot as a society. Glad so few here bothered to put literally any meaningful effort into forming their opinions on this.

Would love an example ! Or just your normal drive by ambiguous post?

People posting their experience isn’t misinformation (unless you think they are lying)

Fuzz tried to present his misinformation but luckily the good folks on CP caught it

PepsiFree · 03-10-2026, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason14h

Would love an example ! Or just your normal drive by ambiguous post?

People posting their experience isn’t misinformation (unless you think they are lying)

Fuzz tried to present his misinformation but luckily the good folks on CP caught it

What would you love an example of !

The good folks on CP aren’t yet sure you know what misinformation is !

Sainters7 · 03-10-2026, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Yeah if you actually have a feed on Twitter you'd know Elon shoves right wing #### down your throat no matter how much you curate your feed. I block everything politics in the hopes my feed is nothing but animals and sports, but I still get random right wing grift posts popping up from time to time.

And yeah, of course Bluesky is left leaning, it's basically Twitter counter programming. Are there even any big time right wing grifters on there?

Exactly my algorithm, just add history and comedians, and I still get the odd "advertisement", which is simply some of the craziest conspiracy theories you've ever seen. Insanity...

Too bad most news still seems to break on there, including the majority of major sports media personalities.

Jason14h · 03-10-2026, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by PepsiFree

What would you love an example of !

The good folks on CP aren’t yet sure you know what misinformation is !

I see you again avoided the question and deflected ! Taking a page from the Trump administration I see ! Would love an example of misinformation in this thread !

Oh wait I did post one. CNN posting blatant misinformation today .

Fuzz did post misinformation that people should be educated and use Bluesky to avoid misinformation, so I guess that’s another from today !

PepsiFree · 03-10-2026, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason14h

I see you again avoided the question and deflected ! Taking a page from the Trump administration I see ! Would love an example of misinformation in this thread !

Sure. Found one:

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Originally Posted by Jason14h

Oh wait I did post one. CNN posting blatant misinformation today .

As a good person of CP I am happy to catch you spreading misinformation. Smarten up and be better.

Doctorfever · 03-10-2026, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Sure. Found one:

As a good person of CP I am happy to catch you spreading misinformation. Smarten up and be better.

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Originally Posted by Jason14h

Some pretty bad misinformation by CNN today . Ooops

https://thehill.com/homenews/media/5...or-attack/amp/

You are doing Gods work Pepsi.

Jason14h · 03-11-2026, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by PepsiFree

Sure. Found one:

As a good person of CP I am happy to catch you spreading misinformation. Smarten up and be better.

I’m confused - CNN didn’t post misinformation ? They literally posted a redaction and editor apology about posting misinformation hours later.

You seem really confused .

Dan02 · 03-11-2026, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by The Fonz

I don’t think there’s really anything else to show you on BlueHair - the users are largely only from that outer 15% of the political spectrum - the far left.

Twitter has the opposite 15% - the far right. But it’s also got the 70% in the middle.

I don't know, i don't think the 70% in the middle use either.

Fuzz · 03-11-2026, 07:25 AM

Holy #### I didn't realize just how dumb y'all are. Wow.

"Derp, I can't find ma sports bro's on the bluesky, so it's good fer nuthin's!" Oh, heaven's to Beatsie! Wherever shall I find my sports news on the internet? Won't someone find all the interesting stuff for me and show me how to everything?

"Trump Derangement derpidy do!" As if Trump isn't a child molesting dementia addled kleptocrat. Ya, we were all wrong about him. It's you who support raping children that has been right all along! And Elon isn't platforming white supremacists, re-xitting their racist trash with a "100%". Nope, no evidence of that anywhere. And yup, that is the only content on Bluesky. That's it. That's all. So.####ing.dumb.

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As many predicted, Musk has turned X into the new Stormfront, an enormous radicalization engine for himself and for the broader GOP. The MAGA movement, of course, has radicalized with him. A few years ago, the cautious flirtation of commentators like Tucker Carlson with Great Replacement ideas caused minor political crises. Today, again, nobody bats an eye.

https://religiondispatches.org/2026/...te-nationalism

Like, goddamn man, I know you have a fetish for humiliation, but maybe try not being a ####ing moron for one goddamn day. Please.

PepsiFree · 03-11-2026, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jason14h

I’m confused - CNN didn’t post misinformation ? They literally posted a redaction and editor apology about posting misinformation hours later.

You seem really confused .

You are confused, because you don’t seem to understand shat misinformation is. Looks like you aren’t alone with a few others, though, so don’t be hard on yourself.

Here’s the definition:

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misinformation refers to false information that is not intended to cause harm

I’ll break it down for you. What actually happened with CNN (as reported in the article and elsewhere) is not misinformation because the facts of the story were correct (you could verify this if you read it), but were framed in a softer/lighter/more “whimsical” tone. That’s also what people took issue with (rightfully so, as it’s a legitimate editorial issue and frankly just a terribly stupid way to frame that event). You’ll notice nowhere in the article does it mention misinformation, nor have I seen anyone reputable label it that on social media, because it would indicate the person doesn’t actually know what misinformation is.

Whereas you:
- claimed CNN posted misinformation (false)
- claimed CNN posted an apology about posting misinformation (false)

Unlike CNN, you actually got the facts wrong, which ironically means you were the one posting misinformation in this case.

Hope that clears it up. I think some more learning is in order before you dive any deeper into the conversation.

Which goes back to why observing the back and forth in this thread feels like it is making people overwhelmingly dumber.

If we use the commonly accepted definition of misinformation, and agree that ways to combat that are to seek out verifiable information trustworthy sources from trustworthy sources, then watching a bunch of people who have been guilty of being terrible sources spread unverifiable information and observable misinformation while they clumsily attempt to call out misinformation in a thread about misinformation becomes hilarious.

CliffFletcher · 03-11-2026, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Fuzz

Holy #### I didn't realize just how dumb y'all are. Wow.

Deep breath.

Nobody here is defending X or Musk's politics. You were called out for the misinformation you pulled from Bluesky, and now you've gone full tilt.

Bluesky is a highly partisan, short-form social media platform. Its users are looking for validation for what they already believe, not nuance or pushback.

If you're mainly interested in knowing what's happening in the world, and you want it sourced from a left or liberal POV, you can get that from the CBC, Guardian, or NPR. What platforms like Bluesky offer that the MSM doesn't is the barbed, snarky, hyper-partisan engagement that users cultivated on Twitter and took with them when they became refugees on Bluesky.

And if that's what floats your boat, then cool. But the platform is going to present content that crosses the line from highly biased to outright misinformation because the people peddling misinformation don't get pushback from followers and 'allies' if it targets groups and people they all hate. That's just the nature of the platform and the community.

Firebot · 03-11-2026, 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Fuzz

Holy #### I didn't realize just how dumb y'all are. Wow.

"Derp, I can't find ma sports bro's on the bluesky, so it's good fer nuthin's!" Oh, heaven's to Beatsie! Wherever shall I find my sports news on the internet? Won't someone find all the interesting stuff for me and show me how to everything?

"Trump Derangement derpidy do!" As if Trump isn't a child molesting dementia addled kleptocrat. Ya, we were all wrong about him. It's you who support raping children that has been right all along! And Elon isn't platforming white supremacists, re-xitting their racist trash with a "100%". Nope, no evidence of that anywhere. And yup, that is the only content on Bluesky. That's it. That's all. So.####ing.dumb.

https://religiondispatches.org/2026/...te-nationalism

Like, goddamn man, I know you have a fetish for humiliation, but maybe try not being a ####ing moron for one goddamn day. Please.

Good morning to you too Fuzz

Take your coffee first before posting.

BlueSky isn't used for stuff like baseball, tech news, hockey? Actual...reasons why you would use an event based social media platform like X or BlueSky?

I legitimately went in to see what it would look like for my everyday use of social media with an open mind. It failed miserably. Unless you solely use it to follow accounts you follow. I see some niche uses, but they are extremely limited.

I'm all ears on what you use it for. Legitimate non-political ones. More attempts today, again legitimate attempts.

I search "AI Art", and get everything but AI art.

Why don't we just try "Art"? I get a Trump / Epstein drawing first post...

https://bsky.app/profile/sarcasticpo.../3mgo6o44dvs2i

I've followed several non-political accounts and interests (yes including baseball). And yet the first thing I get right in my main discover this morning is @stonerphillyfan.bsky.sc

https://bsky.app/profile/stonerphill.../3mgrrbqrtqc2t

I get shown a random baseball fan's (were 100% of his posts are political) opinion on the war of Iran? And fed the same exact accounts as yesterday (Aaron Rupar, Christopher Webb) along with a sprinkle of cat photos.

Surely there is more to BlueSky than political rage filled folks, right?

Also...I find your insulting of someone looking for sports in a normal matter quite odd, considering this is a hockey forum and primarily the reason most of us frequent this board (I would hope).

Fuzz · 03-11-2026, 08:32 AM

PepsiFree · 03-11-2026, 09:51 AM

I have a Bluesky account that I don’t use, never followed anyone, never interacted with a post, never posted myself, etc. Set it up when I got the chance and effectively did nothing with it ever.

95% of what I see is entirely generic. People sharing art. Sports highlights. Pictures of peoples cats and dogs with funny/cute comments. etc. It’s actually extremely heavy on the art side, which seems weird. I also don’t have and don’t care about anyone else’s pets, so don’t care for that. When I search “Calgary Flames” I also get the makeup post, but as I scroll down I see posts about the Kadri trade, the Washington game, the Rangers game, the Senators game, etc. It seems entirely what I would expect searching for that, outside the makeup post being at the top. During my five minute scroll there were 3 posts about Iran, which is the biggest political and international news story going, so not surprising.

I’m not going to make any claims about the platform or the algorithm because of this, as that would be stupid, but perhaps one person’s experience isn’t relevant in determining the value or bias of that platform. I think it’s a terrible and mostly pointless platform, not because I’m farming for some political stuff to be outraged about, but because I really have zero interest in pictures of peoples’ pets or the thing they painted last week.

Then again, I’m smart enough to know that’s entirely on me for giving it zero indication of what I’m actually interested in, and am not the type to act surprised when I click on political posts that enrage me and get served more of the same.

Firebot · 03-11-2026, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Fuzz

I honestly don't give a #### if you guys use it or not, I just know you are completely off base of your characterization of it. Sorry it's not full of MAGA posts deepthroating racist white supremacists. I guess if you want that type of balanced, you'll have to look elsewhere. We know there is a place with sports reporters, and that, if that's your jive.

I just want tech news, AI news, local events, art, Calgary / Canada news, a few fun memes or lighthearted accounts, some of my favourite sports on typical day to day use on my social media platform of choice (I use reddit mainly).

Is that so much to ask without being bombarded by constant anti-Trump rhetoric no matter the topic? It shouldn't be. There are certain normal topics / interests that are completely absent from BlueSky or deliberately pushed down in lieu of political content due to the mindset of the folks on the platform.

Following Mark Hamil isn't going to get you anything Star Wars related these days, he's become full on rage political critic. Same for George Takei. So at that point you are only following them to listen for their political messages (kinda like if you are following Theo Fleury these days you are doing so because of his far right opinions, not because he was a former Flame).

Thanks for the bollard link, that is indeed a banger of an account. Instant add.

All the neutral options like National Geographic exist on X as well. If the sole purpose is to be Elon free and not being fed anything far right, it can be done to a degree, with sacrifices. I understand that.

But the point was you claimed BlueSky was not slanted which I proved it most definitely is even on non-political topics. You want it attributed to the users and not the algorithm, but the users are what make the platform. It makes it even more of an echo chamber as a result.

And again, I did mention I previously had a BlueSky and had it installed on my phone before. It's a useful platform for some very specific niches which I have stated (some scientists are only there for example).

I am still logged in to the new X account, and the posts in a row were from United Canada, Spittin Chiclets, Science Girl, Learn Something, Mark Carney, Chris Murphy. A mix of a bit of everything including science news with a mix of cat and dog photos and a couple funny videos. Again, if anything, I haven't seen anything far right pushed to this account when I didn't look for it yet. Very normal even milquetoast feed with the algorithm picking up on a few of my searches I did yesterday. Not quite your characterization of full on MAGA posts.

Compare that to my BlueSky feed which has StonerPhillyFan who is so far left he sees the Democrats as war mongering far right. I have no idea why I am getting fed this. The only searches and clicks were on the ones I mentioned in the previous post. A quick BlueSky refresh, now I have conspiracies about the midterm and that the war in Iran is to incite terrorist attacks within the US.

I would rather have my discovery feed be United Canada, Spittin Chiclets, Science Girl, Learn Something, Mark Carney, Chris Murphy versus what the heck BlueSky has been trying to push me.

Is it fair to say, based on what have you followed or gave as examples, you may be seeing a lot of very strongly opiniated politics with a touch of bollards and sprinkle of stunning nature images? It's not going to be very balanced.

Not sure why you are getting so irrationally angry over BlueSky being questioned and immediately attacking and making some extremely offensive accusations.

Firebot · 03-11-2026, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by PepsiFree

95% of what I see is entirely generic. People sharing art. Sports highlights. Pictures of peoples cats and dogs with funny/cute comments. etc. It’s actually extremely heavy on the art side, which seems weird. I also don’t have and don’t care about anyone else’s pets, so don’t care for that. When I search “Calgary Flames” I also get the makeup post, but as I scroll down I see posts about the Kadri trade, the Washington game, the Rangers game, the Senators game, etc. It seems entirely what I would expect searching for that, outside the makeup post being at the top. During my five minute scroll there were 3 posts about Iran, which is the biggest political and international news story going, so not surprising.

"Calgary Flames" search was benign. You haven't done a different conclusion than I did there (and your experience not wholly different from mine except mine had a higher volume of anti-Trump reports by default, again I understand it can fluctuate).

Now do baseball. Right now because of the Italy win against the US you will see a shift from what I experienced, but you will likely see some Italy fascist comment as well as more Trump baseball cap stuff.

But heck I will counter with a different search with clear misinformation in full force.

Tumbler Ridge

BlueSky is by far the better source with solely news

X is full of transphobia and far right as soon as you search it. First 4 posts were clear extreme far right takes.

Search Tel Aviv

Bluesky becomes a complete cesspool of fake bombing videos, and nasty cheers of deaths of zionists. Incredibly nasty stuff.

X as well has a lot, though Bluesky definitely has more fake videos.

Misinformation is highly dependent on the topic and which platform you are using. Understanding this. BlueSky is just as prone to misinformation as any other platform because of the user base, and for certain topics have an unchecked echo chamber.

Fuzz · 03-11-2026, 11:15 AM

So it looks like you are just using it wrong(for your desires). The discover feed is where you discover more stuff. I don't know how that specific feed works, and I don't really use it. I'm sure it's explained somewhere if someone wants to look.

If what you want is to follow specific people, you follow them, and they should be all that appears in your "following" feed, which is the default I think. I can't say 100%, but I don't think I've ever seen stuff in my following feed that isn't people I follow. Sometimes they will repost someone else, so will be exposed to as a new account that way in that feed. But that's the only stuff that isn't directly who I follow, or part of the packs I follow. Sometime I click the Earth Science feed, and see only Earth Science stuff. You should be able to do that with many topics.

It's irritating because a clown car showed up to tell me what I'm seeing is the same but opposite of X, I'm deranged, I'm wrong about how things work, all with so little research or rational common sense put into it, that ya, I dropped some F-bombs. It's frustrating to know just how daft people are, even when you point them to the watering hole.

So no, I don't think it's fair to say I am seeing a lot of strongly opinionated politics from StonerPhillyFan and the like. And as I said, that's not all the accounts I follow, it was a quick skim this morning, before a lot of them posted, like some of these(I don't follow all, but some are form re-posts)

https://bsky.app/profile/ctheriault.bsky.social
https://bsky.app/profile/akurjata.ca
https://bsky.app/profile/jeromyyyc.bsky.social
https://bsky.app/profile/naheednenshi.bsky.social
https://bsky.app/profile/ablawg.bsky.social
https://bsky.app/profile/jvipondmd.bsky.social
https://bsky.app/profile/drewmagary.bsky.social
https://bsky.app/profile/nytimes.com
https://bsky.app/profile/duanebratt.bsky.social
https://bsky.app/profile/cpac.ca
https://bsky.app/profile/mountroyalu.bsky.social
https://bsky.app/profile/robsonfletcher.com
https://bsky.app/profile/adammacvicar.bsky.social
https://bsky.app/profile/cmdr-hadfield.bsky.social
https://bsky.app/profile/justinling.ca
https://bsky.app/profile/weathernetwork.bsky.social
https://bsky.app/profile/greatdismal.bsky.social
https://bsky.app/profile/brittlestar.com
https://bsky.app/profile/theijf.org
https://bsky.app/profile/nigelb.bsky.social
https://bsky.app/profile/thebreakdownab.bsky.social
https://bsky.app/profile/jantafrench.bsky.social
https://bsky.app/profile/lukelebrun.ca
https://bsky.app/profile/drgorfinkel.bsky.social
https://bsky.app/profile/markusoff.bsky.social

To make the claims as have been made above by many are to be completely ignorant to reality. There are lots of local accounts, diverse subjects, and more being added. It's great for science news, because researchers tend not to want to hang out with Nazis, and have found Bluesky better. No, you won't see Tristan Hopper because his racist posts would probably get him banned.

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Research posts on Bluesky are more original — and get better engagement

https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-024-03784-6

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Bluesky's science takeover: 70% of Nature poll respondents use platform

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/39856207/

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The lack of an algorithm could also reduce some of the negative effects of social media, says Jay Van Bavel, a psychologist at New York University. “For instance, it won’t incentivize posts that drive conflict/comments, which were prioritized by the algorithm on X.” That could have a tremendous effect over time, says Mark Carrigan, a digital sociologist at the University of Manchester. “One of the things that’s so destructive about an algorithmic timeline is that the incentive is not to win the esteem and approval of your existing network. It’s to get a reaction,” he says. He hopes moving away from this type of discourse could contribute to improving academic culture.

https://www.science.org/content/arti...d-shortcomings

Firebot · 03-11-2026, 11:27 AM

Speaking of misinformation: Both X and BlueSky have fake videos of the Tel Aviv airport being destroyed right now from suspect sources.

Before we see someone who has a biased perception post it in a thread, understand it is a fake video. We've had a few incidents of late of propagated misinformation.