[Trade] Jason Dickinson+Dach to the Oilers for Mangiapane and 2027 1st (top 12 protected)

[cam_wmh]

So is agent Mangiapane, memorialized with Forever a Flame, upon retirement?

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by Jetfire

Ah yes, a forward on a 4.25 million dollar deal who averages like 8 goals a season outside of a single outlier year. The Oil are saved.

Annnddd....who will play approximately 7 minutes max a game.

[Eric Vail]

Originally Posted by icarus

You almost have to wonder if the Oilers braintrust's backup plan is to trade both McDavid and Draisaitl if they don't win the cup to recoup oodles of high picks and prospects. Otherwise this franchise is not going to be competitive for an entire generation.

I think the plan is to play it out as long as they can with McDavid and Draisaitl. If one or both leave, it is time to dive to the bottom of the NHL for as long as it takes to find another McDavid calibre player.

I don't see the Oilers trading McDavid unless he forces the issue. They will desperately hang on as long as they can.

[midniteowl]

I can cheer on Breadman again...

[thefoss1957]

Dikinson had a good run in Chicago and is a solid bottom 6/PK guy. Dach looks OK, not special, 23 still upside to develop. Bounced between 3rd and 4th lines center and wing.

Dach will be an RFA, Dickinson will be a UFA, at season's end.

Neither were lighting it up this year, 21 points -22 between them.

Bread Eater looks Rockford bound...Buyout would cost $2.93M this year and $333333 next.

'Hawks have $57M in cap space.

A 2027 or 2028 1st round pick is Edmonton overpaying for 2 journeymen rentals, IMO, even with 50% retention on Dickinson.

Note, the 1st round pick is top 12 protected for the Greasers for 2027, however, if the Pick moves to 2028, it will be unconditional.

[stemit14]

I think a lot of fan bases will be asking why their team didn’t take this deal from the oilers? Every team has depth players as good or better than Dickinson and Dach that they could have traded. It’s a terrible trade for the oilers IMO and a steal for the Hawks. That first could be a fantastic pick.

[midniteowl]

Originally Posted by thefoss1957

Dikinson had a good run in Chicago and is a solid bottom 6/PK guy. Dach looks OK, not special, 23 still upside to develop. Bounced between 3rd and 4th lines center and wing.

Dach will be an RFA, Dickinson will be a UFA, at season's end.

Neither were lighting it up this year, 21 points -22 between them.

Bread Eater looks Rockford bound...Buyout would cost $2.93M this year and $333333 next.

'Hawks have $57M in cap space.

A 2027 or 2028 1st round pick is Edmonton overpaying for 2 journeymen rentals, IMO, even with 50% retention on Dickinson.

Note, the 1st round pick is top 12 protected for the Greasers for 2027, however, if the Pick moves to 2028, it will be unconditional.

The problem here is the Pigs have no idea how to develop players, poor Dach.

[YourMother]

Originally Posted by Jay Random

I don’t know how to break this to you, but Edmonton is the one place in Alberta that consistently votes for the provincial NDP. I don’t ever recall meeting an NDP supporter who thought well of Trump.

Well I guess congrats to Edmontonians for being a different kind of stupid.

[Eric Vail]

Originally Posted by stemit14

I think a lot of fan bases will be asking why their team didn’t take this deal from the oilers? Every team has depth players as good or better than Dickinson and Dach that they could have traded. It’s a terrible trade for the oilers IMO and a steal for the Hawks. That first could be a fantastic pick.

The reason it was the Hawks is because Bowman was their GM recently and is familiar with their players. He clearly doesn't trust the Oiler pro scouts to give him good information, nor should he given all the brutal moves they have made.

Any team that Bowman didn't GM recently wasn't in consideration.

[Vinny01]

Disastrous series of trades for the Oilers.

On paper Skinner, Mangiapane, Kulak for Jarry, Dickinson, Murphy is a fairly reasonable swap. The fact the Oilers have added a 1st and 2x 2nd to make those deals work is hilarious

[Samonadreau]

Experts: "It's a buyers market"

Oilers: "Hold my beer"

[Eric Vail]

Mangiapane will probably turn into a decent third liner once he gets the Oiler stink off of him. His 30+ goal scoring days will never return, but he was a decent veteran in Washington and should return to that. He is probably worth $1.5 million on a contract. The Oilers expectations were way out of line as they are every year on July 1.

[jaydub74]

Originally Posted by icarus

Calgary and Edmonton offer two different interpretations of scorched earth in the hockey asset sense over several years. We're witnessing such a contrasting case study, in the same province at the same time.

Flames burning their veteran roster players to the ground for picks and prospects, essentially starting from the moment it was apparent Huberdeau was not going to maintain his Florida form in Calgary.

Edmonton burning their picks and prospects to the ground for veteran roster players to bolster the McDavid-Draisaitl window before it inevitably slams shut. Has any team in NHL history gone more all-in with such reckless disregard for the future of the franchise?

Toronto is basically in the same boat.


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[Flamesfan05]

It’s sad when you sell all your future and still can’t win it even with the best player in the world

And knowing your time is ending soon

[howard_the_duck]

What other trade assets do the Oilers still have? Is this their deadline?

[PeteMoss]

Originally Posted by howard_the_duck

What other trade assets do the Oilers still have? Is this their deadline?

They still have 2nd/3rd picks this year and a 2nd next year. But not much cap space.

Also are might need to keep those picks just because they barely have any the next two years:
2026 - 2, 3, 6, 7
2027 - 2, 6, 7 (assuming they move the first round pick)

[Titan2]

Originally Posted by MisterJoji

The first post-McDavid Oilers season is gonna rival the expansion Senators. Trading away all their picks and absolutely no prospects better than a C-level in their system.

You thought pissy was pissy now? He will be glorious-level pissy then!

[Hockey-and_stuff]

Hearing this news on the heels of the Weegar trade last night really made my day. The Oilers continue to be one of the dumbest franchises and its awesome.

[N-E-B]

I knew this would be a bad signing. Since his 35 goal season his point totals have decreased every single year. The warning signs were right in front of us the whole time.

Part of me feels bad for Mangiapane but he willingly signed in Edmonton. He kind of dug his own grave, unfortunately.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by N-E-B

Part of me feels bad for Mangiapane but he willingly signed in Edmonton. He kind of dug his own grave, unfortunately.

I don't suppose he had a real abundance of offers. The Oilers were probably the only team offering him that kind of money.

As it is, he gets the money and gets out of Stinktown. What's not to like?