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Old 03-03-2026, 08:36 PM   #30041
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I still view Kadri as the more important player to move this season.

Older, would like to go play playoff hockey.

I think Coleman loses less value between now and next deadline. I think with Kadri, time is of the essence.
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Old 03-03-2026, 08:36 PM   #30042
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The biggest argument against this is that Naz and Coleman help us win, and winning is not helpful at the moment. If trading them is the difference between, for example, picking 3rd overall or 5th, that's massive value even absent whatever assets we get from the other teams.
The biggest thing “helping us win” is between the pipes and that tandem isn’t going anywhere but you’re entitled to own opinion.
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Old 03-03-2026, 08:37 PM   #30043
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The biggest argument against this is that Naz and Coleman help us win, and winning is not helpful at the moment. If trading them is the difference between, for example, picking 3rd overall or 5th, that's massive value even absent whatever assets we get from the other teams.
Yep, I agree with you completely.

We don't HAVE to trade them, but it would be very dumb not to. Considering you are hurting your chances at a top 3 pick, and neither player will be worth more next year than this year (in my opinion).
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Old 03-03-2026, 08:42 PM   #30044
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If they are not traded, it’s because nobody offered anything good, especially Kadri. There is no reason to keep him. It’s downhill from here on for him….
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Old 03-03-2026, 08:43 PM   #30045
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I wonder if the flames didn’t think it was a good look to bench players with Bettman there tonight actually. That feels like a real reason
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Old 03-03-2026, 08:47 PM   #30046
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The biggest thing “helping us win” is between the pipes and that tandem isn’t going anywhere but you’re entitled to own opinion.
I do think that it becomes a lot harder for the goalies to keep them in it if they don't have Kadri at center ice.
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Old 03-03-2026, 08:47 PM   #30047
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Old 03-03-2026, 08:47 PM   #30048
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Yep, I agree with you completely.

We don't HAVE to trade them, but it would be very dumb not to. Considering you are hurting your chances at a top 3 pick, and neither player will be worth more next year than this year (in my opinion).
Just so you are prepared for this...even if we trade all of our vets, we are not guaranteed to lose more games. Even if we're worse on paper, post trade bumps happen. Players suddenly getting more ice time could pop, like Gridin, Zary, Sharangovich, Whitecloud, Bahl or whatever prospects we call up. Players can start taking on more responsibility and thrive. Most importantly, Wolf and Cooley are looking really good and are stealing games/points.

Post trade bumps, like coaching change bumps or any other hot streak, will end and even out over time, but with only 20 or so games left, there may not be enough time for things to even out and we could very well end on a heater.

I wouldn't be so sure that losses are guaranteed once the trades happen.
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Old 03-03-2026, 08:49 PM   #30049
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Just so you are prepared for this...even if we trade all of our vets, we are not guaranteed to lose more games. Even if we're worse on paper, post trade bumps happen. Players suddenly getting more ice time could pop, like Gridin, Zary, Sharangovich, Whitecloud, Bahl or whatever prospects we call up. Players can start taking on more responsibility and thrive. Most importantly, Wolf and Cooley are looking really good and are stealing games/points.

Post trade bumps, like coaching change bumps or any other hot streak, will end and even out over time, but with only 20 or so games left, there may not be enough time for things to even out and we could very well end on a heater.

I wouldn't be so sure that losses are guaranteed once the trades happen.
This is true but I like playing the odds. The odds are when you lose your best center and one of your top wingers, you will start losing more.

We started losing more once we lost our best defenseman.
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Old 03-03-2026, 08:49 PM   #30050
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I see the usual suspects are dooming and glooming because a trade wasn't made for Calgary (similar to every other team).
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I'm 100% fine if we have a bump because of young players getting bigger roles.

That's one half of this rebuild that we seem to be dragging our feet on.

Make way for the kids, damn it!
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The biggest thing “helping us win” is between the pipes and that tandem isn’t going anywhere but you’re entitled to own opinion.
I didn't say that they're the biggest thing helping us win. Them being here and actively playing is a net positive for today's lineup. Ergo, they're helping the team win games and earn points in the standings. If they're traded, even with major factors such as stellar goaltending, the team is less capable overall of earnings points and therefore may achieve a higher pick.
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I'm 100% fine if we have a bump because of young players getting bigger roles.

That's one half of this rebuild that we seem to be dragging our feet on.

Make way for the kids, damn it!
The kids like Gridin and Kuznetsov?
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Just so you are prepared for this...even if we trade all of our vets, we are not guaranteed to lose more games. Even if we're worse on paper, post trade bumps happen. Players suddenly getting more ice time could pop, like Gridin, Zary, Sharangovich, Whitecloud, Bahl or whatever prospects we call up. Players can start taking on more responsibility and thrive. Most importantly, Wolf and Cooley are looking really good and are stealing games/points.

Post trade bumps, like coaching change bumps or any other hot streak, will end and even out over time, but with only 20 or so games left, there may not be enough time for things to even out and we could very well end on a heater.

I wouldn't be so sure that losses are guaranteed once the trades happen.

That logic is terrible. You play the odds. Drafting 1st doesn't guarantee a star player but more star players are drafted 1st than any other pick.

Trading Kadri and Coleman doesn't guarantee anything but over the next couple seasons I'm pretty sure they lose more games without them than with them.
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I’m surprised Blake is playing tonight, sources close to an organization trying to acquire him are kind of surprised as well but “Flames haven’t played at home for month, probably want to ensure a good on ice product at home but I wouldn’t be surprised if you see his use limited. Guys a gamer and will play for the flames till he’s told he’s not.”
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Old 03-03-2026, 09:02 PM   #30056
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That logic is terrible. You play the odds. Drafting 1st doesn't guarantee a star player but more star players are drafted 1st than any other pick.

Trading Kadri and Coleman doesn't guarantee anything but over the next couple seasons I'm pretty sure they lose more games without them than with them.
Nope, I'm not even talking about the next couple of seasons. Rhett is lamenting that we're costing our chances of drafting top 3 THIS SEASON because we didn't sit Coleman this game and are winning games, and I'm saying it's possible that it doesn't even matter, with only 20 or so games left, we're not guaranteed to lose more the rest of this season.
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Old 03-03-2026, 09:06 PM   #30057
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I see the usual suspects are dooming and glooming because a trade wasn't made for Calgary (similar to every other team).
Nobody is glooming, I think we will trade both.

Conroy is not a dummy. He knows there is zero reason to keep either player. Some people have stated that we don't need to trade both, which I strongly disagree with but everyone is entitled to their opinion.
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Old 03-03-2026, 09:09 PM   #30058
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Nobody is glooming, I think we will trade both.

Conroy is not a dummy. He knows there is zero reason to keep either player. Some people have stated that we don't need to trade both, which I strongly disagree with but everyone is entitled to their opinion.
There are several people glooming.
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There are several people glooming.
I see some discussion about the ideal time to trade and not waiting until next season or the offseason.

I don't see people glooming.
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Wolf got lit up tonight.
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