2025/2026 Season Trade Rumours and Speculation Thread

[McG]

Originally Posted by 1qqaaz

Speaking of which, the 3rd round pick that the Flames received from Vancouver for Zadorov is currently the first pick in the 3rd round. 65th overall, and the 64th player taking.

Around where Oliver Kylington (2nd round, 60th OA) was taken.

According to some, we therefore need to reassess the zadorov trade as a 2nd round pick.

[getbak]

Originally Posted by McG

According to some, we therefore need to reassess the zadorov trade as a 2nd round pick.

With the recent quality of Flames scouting, they've been able to draft first round caliber players even into the 7th round of the draft, so really every draft pick the Flames get is like a 1st rounder.

[Jay Random]

Originally Posted by getbak

With the recent quality of Flames scouting, they've been able to draft first round caliber players even into the 7th round of the draft, so really every draft pick the Flames get is like a 1st rounder.

True, but on the flip side, all those players they draft are almost 40!

[RedHawk12]

Originally Posted by Bingo

Comparing value of draft picks (late first vs a late second) is a legit analysis.

Spinning a first round pick as a second to attempt to put a Flames trade in the worst possible light is disingenuous.

I don't think the original poster is arguing that a 1st is actually a 2nd. Many of the posters calling him out are the ones insistent on classifying a 1st as a 1st, but the original premise of the argument is that the return was not great because it's a late 1st whose value is probably closer to a 2nd than an early/mid first, because it's Vegas.

[IamNotKenKing]

Originally Posted by RedHawk12

I don't think the original poster is arguing that a 1st is actually a 2nd. Many of the posters calling him out are the ones insistent on classifying a 1st as a 1st, but the original premise of the argument is that the return was not great because it's a late 1st whose value is probably closer to a 2nd than an early/mid first, because it's Vegas.

No, that’s not what the poster said.

[RedHawk12]

Originally Posted by IamNotKenKing

No, that’s not what the poster said.

But it is:

Originally Posted by AFireInside

I don't see how it's a great return to be honest. We got what essentially amounts to 2nd round picks unless something crazy happens. We'll be very lucky if any of those picks turn into a decent third line player.

It's not horrible, but it's not great either. To be fair I don't mind Whitecloud at all either.

Originally Posted by AFireInside

There's a good chance Vegas will end up being one of the top teams, so it's essentially a 2nd round pick, it's not a complicated concept. Is there much difference between the 28th overall pick and the 34th overall pick? No.

It doesn't mean it can't be a great pick, odds are it won't be, as I said with a pick in that range we'll be very lucky to get a solid 3rd line player.

The return is what it is, but it's nothing to be excited about.

I do however like Whitecloud, and I wouldn't mind if he stuck around.

[dino7c]

There is also certainly no gurantee that Vegas is a top team in 2027 anyway...even now they have lost more games than they have won.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by RedHawk12

But it is:

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Just adding more comments to how stupid this take is… no bottom feeding team is trading their 2nds for rentals/vets…. So pretending that could be the case for this ridiculous comparison is painfully dishonest or stupid. I can’t decide which one of those it was.

[dino7c]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

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Just adding more comments to how stupid this take is… no bottom feeding team is trading their 2nds for rentals/vets…. So pretending that could be the case for this ridiculous comparison is painfully dishonest or stupid. I can’t decide which one of those it was.

Exactly, if these early seconds are just as valuble or almost as valueble you aren't getting those either lol.

Like do you want the Flames to trade their 2nd for a pending UFA this season??

[RedHawk12]

Originally Posted by Scroopy Noopers

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Just adding more comments to how stupid this take is… no bottom feeding team is trading their 2nds for rentals/vets…. So pretending that could be the case for this ridiculous comparison is painfully dishonest or stupid. I can’t decide which one of those it was.

The point is not that 28=34, nor is the point who is trading the pick. Seriously, why is it relevant that a bottom feeder has the 34th pick? The point is there's not much difference in value.

[OutToLunch]

Originally Posted by RedHawk12

The point is not that 28=34, nor is the point who is trading the pick. Seriously, why is it relevant that a bottom feeder has the 34th pick? The point is there's not much difference in value.

No, the point is an early 2nd isn't available for trade, those lower teams are not trading their early round 1st's or 2nd's for vets at the deadline. So it is either a mid to late 1st, or a mid to late 2nd, which IS a big difference. If you want to say a late 1st is basically an early 2nd, fine, debatable, but saying a late 1st may as well be a 2nd is BS.

[iloveicedhockey]

Good God, we need the Olympic break to be over and some trades to happen.

[Bonded]

Originally Posted by RedHawk12

The point is not that 28=34, nor is the point who is trading the pick. Seriously, why is it relevant that a bottom feeder has the 34th pick? The point is there's not much difference in value.

The difference is that Vegas’ 2nd round pick is nowhere near 34th. It’s dumb and their 1st is not basically a 2nd.

[kyuss275]

Millhouse’s dad just became minority owner of the Calgary flames.

[Steve Bozek]

So this thread hasnothing to do with the Wasserman test for syphilis?

[RedHawk12]

Originally Posted by OutToLunch

No, the point is an early 2nd isn't available for trade, those lower teams are not trading their early round 1st's or 2nd's for vets at the deadline. So it is either a mid to late 1st, or a mid to late 2nd, which IS a big difference. If you want to say a late 1st is basically an early 2nd, fine, debatable, but saying a late 1st may as well be a 2nd is BS.

Haha this was the argument! Nobody is saying the Vegas 1st may have just as well been a Vegas 2nd. Nobody is saying we basically got a late 2nd for Andersson.

"The Vegas 1st is late, there's little difference in value between a late 1st and an early 2nd"

Response: "Well actually, an early 2nd isn't even available in trade!"

Huh? What are you guys even arguing about? You've lost the plot.

[Finger Cookin]

Originally Posted by kyuss275

Millhouse’s dad just became minority owner of the Calgary flames.

Rumour has it he's a pretty big wheel down at the cracker factory.

[jmac98]

Originally Posted by Finger Cookin

Rumour has it he's a pretty big wheel down at the cracker factory.

He also sleeps in a race car.

[Spurly]

To the essentially crowd, next time you go to buy a car and it’s 42,500.
Would you be ok with the salesman saying, well it’s essentially 45000, so pay up.

One number is not essentially a different number.

[puds]

If the 28 pick = 34 pick does it also equal the 22?