Canadian Federal Politics Thread v5

[Wolven]

Originally Posted by puffnstuff

KENNEDY: If Canada came to the US and said, 'We're going to 0 tariffs on the US, all of them are off,' would you and the president go to 0 tariffs and let Canadian companies and American companies compete on a level playing field?

BESSENT: Absolutely not

For those unfamiliar thats a R senator asking the Treasury secretary the Q

Hopefully our govt is watching

We should quote Bessent as the grounds for canceling the F35 order.

[White Out 403]

https://globalnews.ca/news/11654777/...-office-order/

So dumb. More traffic, money spent on buildings office space and equipment, so that the greedy chambers of commerce can have their members sell people 15 dollar sandwiches and 10 dollar bowls of soup.

[Slava]

Originally Posted by White Out 403

https://globalnews.ca/news/11654777/...-office-order/

So dumb. More traffic, money spent on buildings office space and equipment, so that the greedy chambers of commerce can have their members sell people 15 dollar sandwiches and 10 dollar bowls of soup.

Or, and I know that this is a crazy thought, maybe productivity with everyone working from home isn't as good? Weird how when the pandemic was an issue and everyone was working from home that all the movie theaters, shopping malls and golf courses were full at 2pm on a Thursday, and yet everyone claimed that they were getting the same amount of work accomplished.

I do think that some positions and jobs are completely fine without needing to be in the office. But there is also a segment where there is a value to having everyone together for some core hours to get things completed.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Slava

Or, and I know that this is a crazy thought, maybe productivity with everyone working from home isn't as good? Weird how when the pandemic was an issue and everyone was working from home that all the movie theaters, shopping malls and golf courses were full at 2pm on a Thursday, and yet everyone claimed that they were getting the same amount of work accomplished.

I do think that some positions and jobs are completely fine without needing to be in the office. But there is also a segment where there is a value to having everyone together for some core hours to get things completed.

When you don't have to take an hour for lunch, have long coffee breaks and chit chats around the office, buy fancy clothes, lose an hour or more commuting, and many other time drags working in an office involves, it makes sense people can be just as productive from home. Yes, some abuse it and don't do anything, but that's an individual situation that can be spotted and resolved with good management.


And no, it's not perfect and has drawbacks, like onboarding staff sucks for everyone. But the productivity issue is a bit of a lame excuse.

[White Out 403]

Originally Posted by Slava

Or, and I know that this is a crazy thought, maybe productivity with everyone working from home isn't as good? Weird how when the pandemic was an issue and everyone was working from home that all the movie theaters, shopping malls and golf courses were full at 2pm on a Thursday, and yet everyone claimed that they were getting the same amount of work accomplished.

I do think that some positions and jobs are completely fine without needing to be in the office. But there is also a segment where there is a value to having everyone together for some core hours to get things completed.

https://siepr.stanford.edu/publicati...e-working-home

Nope.

My own anecdotal data, which I know you probably won't accept, back when I worked for TELUS , I had a lot of friends in management. After a year from working from home, one showed me an internal report they did on productivity and sick time.

Productivity went up, sick time went down. Employee surveys were more positive.

[opendoor]

If someone has so little to do that they can regularly duck out of work to go to a movie or play golf, then they'd just be doing nothing in the office too. That's a management problem.

My brother works for for the federal government and most of his job is consulting with departments and offices across Western Canada and doing assessments and investigations. If he's part of this order, he'll be driving into a random office where none of his regular coworkers are so he can spend most of his time meeting virtually with people in other regions. What a waste of time and money.

[Blaster86]

I think almost every study to come out through COVID showed WFH had incredible productivity benefits for the company while also being a major improvement for Work-Life balance for the employee.


There is no real work related reason for ending WFH for roles that can do it.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by opendoor

If someone has so little to do that they can regularly duck out of work to go to a movie or play golf, then they'd just be doing nothing in the office too. That's a management problem.

My brother works for for the federal government and most of his job is consulting with departments and offices across Western Canada and doing assessments and investigations. If he's part of this order, he'll be driving into a random office where none of his regular coworkers are so he can spend most of his time meeting virtually with people in other regions. What a waste of time and money.

I occasionally go for around of disc golf, but I have the hour for that because I can get out of bed, grab a coffee, and start working. Not having to go to the office frees up loads of time, and none of that is work time. So you can use it for other things, like mental health activity breaks. Which improves productivity.