[News] Gavin McKenna facing charges for assault UPD: felony charge withdrawn

[Royle9]

Fighting now a days is nothing like it was back in our day.
I’d be very hesitant to throw any punches, not just from fear of injury or possible lawsuits/jail time but from my experience nobody fights fair anymore and almost always weapons get thrown into the mix which results in more dire consequence.

This exact scenario happened to a buddy of mine where he stepped up to defend his wife from comments at a bar/restaurant and after throwing the first punch he was jumped from behind and stabbed multiple times.

Almost lost his ability to walk.

Just stupid all around.

So I’m firmly in the walk away category, though my inside voice definitely tells me FAFO to defend one’s loved ones.

[Mass_nerder]

Originally Posted by Jiri Hrdina

There is also value in turning the other cheek and removing yourself from that situation.

Fights can lead to all sorts of really bad stuff:
- Jail
- Civil suits
- One of the people getting seriously hurt and/or killed

There's not much upside in throwing the first punch, but there's plenty of downside.

While I don't necessarily see what he did as a major red flag (provided the guy was actually trash-talking), I agree that it was incredibly dumb. I appreciate that he's still a kid and his brain isn't fully developed yet, but all it takes is an awkward fall after the punch and two lives could be over for no reason.

A friend of mine got in a bar fight years ago and punched a guy who then fell backward, hit his head and died. There just aren't a lot of good reasons to take that chance.

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by Otto-matic

I must have lived a boring life, i've never been involved in a bar fight nor has most of my friends.

There’s still time.

[combustiblefuel]

Originally Posted by BigThief

People can die from a single punch. Did you see what Anthony Joshua to the social media influncer/boxer Jake Paul last month? The final blow completely ruined his jaw, broke it in two places.

There's been a few kids( late teens/early 20s) that died at downtown Mcdonalds in Victoria. 1 punch knockouts. 1 punch is all it takes.

I got suckered punch walking home from work in downtown Victoria late at night. Broke my jaw in 2 places. I didn't see it coming.

[CliffFletcher]

Lots of internet tough guys commenting here.

Originally Posted by dammage79

Rumor is some instigator (drunkenly ignorant and likely lacking situational awareness) wouldn't leave McKenna's family alone, went too far, McKenna stepped in and laid him out.

This is an extremely common situation in every bar.... Everywhere. Especially if it's packed.

It really isn't.

Do people get riled up and get in someone's face if they make an insulting comment? Yes, sometimes. Might even go at them in and give them a shove, make some threats. And it might escalate from there into a tussle (though usually it doesn't).

Is a typical response to immediately punch the person in the face with full force? Nope. Because A) most people don't have hair-trigger tempers, and B) unless they're hammered they know how dangerous a punch to the face can be. You can seriously mess up an unprepared, untrained person with a direct punch to the face. Guy got one-punched dead at the my local pub about 10 years ago. It's no joke.

We don't know what exactly happend with McKenna. But the people saying they'd cold-#### someone if they insulted their mom are either lying or morons.

[manwiches]

Originally Posted by Scooter

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His NIL $$$$$$$ should allow him to get some top defence lawyer but I wouldn't be shocked if the charges are reduced or dropped and the victim accepts a large $$$$$$$ settlement.

Just confirmed with my best friend who's a criminal defense attorney, practicing in Calgary, but very familiar with US law.

He will likely have charges dropped in lieu of a payout, and since this isn't the NFL, his draft status won't be affected likely.

If the reason he tossed first is true, while I don't condone tossing first, someone says something about my mom or family, I can see why.

In any event, we will see how it all plays out when evidence comes to light.

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[InternationalVillager]

https://twitter.com/user/status/2019193292374655192

[The Fonz]

Rumour circulating that the victim pushed McKenna’s mother, in addition to calling her a whore.

Allegedly.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by FunkMasterFlame

Guess you missed out on the Charlie Kirk assassination thread. A large portion of this message board seems pretty okay with straight-up murder for words they disagree with.

Can you name one poster that said Kirk deserved to die?

[Roko]

Keep the politics out of here. My god.

Mckenna likely gets off this with a settlement at most.
Lawyers will be on this from McKenna and likely Penn State.

If the victim physically harmed McKennas mother at all, case will be dismissed.

[DiracSpike]

Originally Posted by InternationalVillager

https://twitter.com/user/status/2019193292374655192

Damn. Well I suppose that's the best possible contextual explanation for the headline of "star prospect facing felony aggravated assault charge" short of someone's life being in danger but still, not smart from McKenna here. You have to know that people are gonna try to hook you any way they can, doesn't matter if it's other players, coaches, or random drunken morons at the bar. You can't be punching out people even if they're saying horrible ####, now you're getting charged in your draft year, this dude is gonna sue and take money from you too in addition to insulting your mom, and teams are going to rightly question your judgement and maturity.

EDIT- If the guy actually laid hands on the mom then everything I said is moot and you're 100% in the right to neutralize the guy and it shouldn't be criminal or effect draft stock.

[troutman]

Originally Posted by Roko

Keep the politics out of here. My god.

Please. This is not only a hockey story, and humans are political.

[Zoller]

I'm surprised a skinny kid like that has enough of a punch to break someone's jaw

If anything, this raises his draft stock

[slcrocket]

This is a nothingburger. Won't affect his stock negatively at all.

This is hockey.

[Matty81]

Yeah I'm not saying responding to words with violence is alright at all - but a few more accounts surfacing that the man who got knocked out was really going at his mom and possibly even pushed her in front of a huge crowd.

As such I really can't see the NHL fraternity looking down on him for this. And as others have said there are probably GMs out there where it actually raises his stock.

Again not saying that's right or wrong but hockey is also a violent sport where standing up for yourself and swinging first is celebrated. It probably only hurts him if he does get jail time or has his rights to work in the US impacted.

[Reggie Dunlop]

[stemit14]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Rumour circulating that the victim pushed McKenna’s mother, in addition to calling her a whore.

Allegedly.

If it’s true they put their hands on his mom… I could see this being dismissed pretty quickly with even a half-decent lawyer. Defending a family member from someone who started getting physical against her. There are plenty of people in this world that would have little self-restraint in that scenario and would be justified in doing physical harm to someone that did.

Put me down as someone that wants him to be drafted by the flames even more if this is true about him KO-ing someone for putting their hands on his mom and calling her that.

[dammage79]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Lots of internet tough guys commenting here.



It really isn't.

Do people get riled up and get in someone's face if they make an insulting comment? Yes, sometimes. Might even go at them in and give them a shove, make some threats. And it might escalate from there into a tussle (though usually it doesn't).

Is a typical response to immediately punch the person in the face with full force? Nope. Because A) most people don't have hair-trigger tempers, and B) unless they're hammered they know how dangerous a punch to the face can be. You can seriously mess up an unprepared, untrained person with a direct punch to the face. Guy got one-punched dead at the my local pub about 10 years ago. It's no joke.

We don't know what exactly happend with McKenna. But the people saying they'd cold-#### someone if they insulted their mom are either lying or morons.

Okay sure. But after 20+ years doing bar security work I can 100 percent tell you from experience, bar fights happen frequently and often under the very circumstances that are rumored here. If it's not mom it's a girlfriend or a bro or any such person close to the person who felt they needed to fight/defend someone. No tough guy BS here, just pure experience and perspective from someone whos broken up a thousand bar fights .

Conversely, there's other rumors McKenna went off on someone who was chirping him for not being to buy booze at said bar where he removed his underage bracelet. If that's true, then thats another story and asks for a more damning look at the McKenna.

[BigThief]

Originally Posted by CliffFletcher

Lots of internet tough guys commenting here.



It really isn't.

Oh lord. When was the last time you were in a bar past 10pm Cliff?

[Goriders]

Originally Posted by The Fonz

Rumour circulating that the victim pushed McKenna’s mother, in addition to calling her a whore.

Allegedly.

Man. If he did that he’s lucky more than just McKenna didn’t kick his ass. You don’t do that.