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Old 01-20-2026, 06:25 PM   #17881
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I haven't thought about that at all as I have no intention of setting foot in there anytime soon, if ever.
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Old 01-20-2026, 06:40 PM   #17882
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I've been thinking a lot lately about travelling to the US. Not actually planning, but what would happen if I, a white middle aged male, would do if asked for my "papers".

Unless something has changed that I'm unaware of, I wouldn't have "papers" to travel to Minniapolis. I'd have a passport but that doesn't necessarily mean I'm in the country legally.

How do I prove I'm there legally? I'm not a citizen. I don't nor would I have a green card. As a tourist, what do I do?

Now, I'm not stepping foot into the US during the Trump administration. But like.. what recourse and protection is there?

I honestly can't think of any (just hope my white maleness is enough). I mean I'm not even the right religion, I'm actually Christian not American 'Christian'.
There's something called an I-94. It used to be a slip of paper they'd give you to put in your passport but now it's digital. Every time you enter the U.S. this tracks when you got in and where.

You can plug your passport info in here and it'll probably have your entries/exits going back 10 years: https://i94.cbp.dhs.gov/search/recent-search
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Old 01-20-2026, 07:11 PM   #17883
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I haven't thought about that at all as I have no intention of setting foot in there anytime soon, if ever.
Never going back. I can't think of a realistic series of events that would be enough for me to think that everything since 2016 didn't happen, or didn't matter.

Never going back.
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Old 01-20-2026, 07:30 PM   #17884
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I hope the west coast states of the US separate so I can go there.

Not touching US soil until drumpf is gone and ICE dismantled.
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Old 01-20-2026, 07:44 PM   #17885
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Trump is a narcissistic psychopath and should have been removed from office in his first term. He is harming his own country, his own people and the rest of the planet due to his mental illness. He is absolutely incapable of doing his job. And it's going to get much, much worse.

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Yes, psychopathy and narcissism can overlap. When this happens, the person may exhibit characteristics of both personality disorders, said Ficken. These may include:

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- entitlement with a disregard for the rights or feelings of others
- exploitation of others, either to feed a sense of superiority or for personal gain without remorse
- aggressive or hostile behavior when they feel their sense of self-worth is threatened
- charm and charisma are used manipulatively to gain control over others
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Let's be honest, if you look white, you'll very likely be alright unless you're protesting or talking back to ICE officers. If you're not white though... Yeah, don't go.
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Old 01-20-2026, 07:56 PM   #17887
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Lindsey Halligan, who as a top Justice Department prosecutor pursued indictments against a pair of President Donald Trump’s adversaries, is leaving her position, Attorney General Pam Bondi said Tuesday night. [AP]
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Old 01-20-2026, 08:02 PM   #17888
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Let's be honest, if you look white, you'll very likely be alright unless you're protesting or talking back to ICE officers. If you're not white though... Yeah, don't go.
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There are zero issues if you are white. I don't know that I've seen/heard of a single instance of ICE demanding papers from non protesting whites, anywhere. Which is just as they want it, here in this version of America. Any version of America?
Not advocating you come visit, but that's more individual protest than security reasons.
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Lindsey Halligan, who as a top Justice Department prosecutor pursued indictments against a pair of President Donald Trump’s adversaries, is leaving her position, Attorney General Pam Bondi said Tuesday night. [AP]

This after the courts already ruled that she had no authority in the role she was handed, and she had to stop acting as an attorney, and her continuing to do so. Judge went after Bondi earlier today.
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Old 01-20-2026, 09:12 PM   #17890
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There are zero issues if you are white. I don't know that I've seen/heard of a single instance of ICE demanding papers from non protesting whites, anywhere. Which is just as they want it, here in this version of America. Any version of America?
Not advocating you come visit, but that's more individual protest than security reasons.
I looked it up and was a little surprised that there have been quite a few white people picked up by ICE as well. Obviously not at the same rate as non-whites.

It seems to happen mostly at border crossings and not just off the street in non-border towns though.
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Old 01-20-2026, 09:55 PM   #17891
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I looked it up and was a little surprised that there have been quite a few white people picked up by ICE as well. Obviously not at the same rate as non-whites.

It seems to happen mostly at border crossings and not just off the street in non-border towns though.
Oh I have no doubt there might be potential issues for anyone at land borders. I wouldn't expect many by air. I was more referring to feet on the ground after arrival.
Again, I'm not advocating traveling here, for lots of reasons.
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Old 01-20-2026, 10:15 PM   #17892
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It's crazy to see Trump is, on the one hand, a crazy old man yelling at clouds while, on the other hand, is basically like a teenager on social media, feeding off likes and comments when he posts something outrageous.

He's long since learned he can literally say whatever he wants, even if clearly untruthful, and never have to answer for it. Reporters ask him questions, but they never fact check him on follow up, or even ask him what we're all thinking: "um, what are you even talking about? This makes no sense". His staffers and sycophants like Rubio, Leavitt are then left to sane-wash his ramblings or, if untenable, just say that the president was obviously joking.

Elected by a populace with whom his d#####y attitude and cluelessness resonates, the whole world now has to suffer through this bizarre social experiment again, but with everything on the line from global security to the global economy.

Trump for his part probably just knows he's gonna be dead in ten years so wants to watch the world burn on his way out (because he was inexplicably put in a position to do so).

Sorry I just had a moment of clarity and felt like writing it out, apologies CP.
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Imagine how much better the world would be right now if Gore had won that election.
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I feel like the pet eating migrants have really gone into hiding too.

Those were the guys that were smuggling the drugs. All gone now.
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Old 01-20-2026, 11:04 PM   #17895
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The company I work for imports item from China. We were talking about going there, but one of guys said he'd be afraid of going there and not being allowed to leave for some reason.
I said I'd be more worried about going to the states and having something happen there than in China. On top of that, there aren't more guns than people in China like in the US.
On top of that, the requirement to have your picture taken upon entry to the US seems pretty scammy to me. I mean, Americans won't care when that information is leaked or sold because it doesn't affect Americans. I don't expect that Q-Tip Stephen Miller to care, or anyone else in that administration to do anything that is right. Putin and his internet rolls probably have the images three minutes after the photo is taken.
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Putin must think he’s been transported to an alternate universe.
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Imagine how much better the world would be right now if Gore had won that election.
He did.
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Let's be honest, if you look white, you'll very likely be alright unless you're protesting or talking back to ICE officers. If you're not white though... Yeah, don't go.
Well, that depends. Have you always wanted to visit El Salvador but there aren't any direct flights?
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Well, that depends. Have you always wanted to visit El Salvador but there aren't any direct flights?
Their version of 4-Star Accommodations really leaves much to be desired, and thats not even mentioning their complete lack of off-property excursion opportunities.

When I want to 'swim with the fish' I'm thinking more 'snorkeling' than what they have in mind.
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They got Trump on the really good downers at Davos right now, might be his most low energy and drowsy speech yet.
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