01-15-2026, 03:51 PM
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#21761
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Taking a while to get to 5000
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Between this and the Kyle Tucker drama, its been fun refreshing every second.
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01-15-2026, 03:51 PM
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#21762
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Exactly. We just need to wait it out for 14 years (in both examples), and then everything will be glorious, and our patience will be rewarded!
(though not with any actual Stanley Cups or anything, but with some eventual playoff appearances!)
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We are at 4 straight and rumored to be trading 3 of our best players. How many years do you predict it gets too? I wouldn't be surprised if we hit 7-8 and that is in the much weaker conference.
Eichel situation hurt that franchise big time. Tons of teams did not want to trade for him and give him the green light on the surgery he wanted. Tanking hard to get McDavid and ending up with Eichel added years to the rebuild and his injuries were a big part of them having to start over.
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01-15-2026, 03:52 PM
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#21763
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by dino7c
come on guy, I'm talking about all the high end UFAs the Flames have traded, its all been for futures
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Frost and Farabee are both almost 40 so there's that.
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01-15-2026, 03:52 PM
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#21764
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Vinny01
There is nothing wrong with posting flames related trade comments from reputable insiders in this thread.
Comix don’t say he was angry about it rather that some people will get mad when they read that.
As an aside at this point when insiders (Dreger also said it on early trading today) that the Flames “won’t burn it to the ground” what does that even mean? We could assume that they won’t be trading guys like Wolf, Coronato, Bahl, and veterans Backlund, Huberdeau and Weegar. It could also be interpreted as they won’t trade Kadri or Coleman but I personally don’t think that is what the mean.
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Based their ages, burning it to the ground would have to include trading Wolf, Coronato, and Bahl, in addition to all of the vets. If you're planning a 10-14 year "burn it to the ground" approach, they'll all be getting up in age when the competitive window opens. I think the Flames want to win with Wolf, Coronato, Brz, Gridin, and Parekh, so they are probably planning a slightly less than scorched earth approach.
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01-15-2026, 03:54 PM
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#21765
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Springbank
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Well perhaps - just spit balling here - perhaps he has enough time in the day to try and engage ALL the fanbases, even the '16th most engaged' ones.
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Just today LeBrun has tweeted about Ottawa, Montreal, TB, NJ, Colorado, Buffalo and Seattle.
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01-15-2026, 03:56 PM
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#21766
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: The Pas, MB
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Macho0978
But decisions go both ways. Q Hughes wants out of Vancouver and they trade him for young players and prospects.
Tkachuk wants out and we get 30 years olds trying to win.
Now we are Buffalo because we are afraid of being Buffalo?
Buffalo was not rebuilding 14 straight years.
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The Flames don't have to become Buffalo. But Buffalo is an example of how committing to a rebuild/multiple rebuilds can go bad. Edwards is probably not the only owner in the league who uses them as an example as to why they are cautious and prefer to not do a full rebuild.
Like I said, until they have some success they will always be used as the cautionary tale.
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01-15-2026, 03:58 PM
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#21767
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: CGY
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Macindoc
Based their ages, burning it to the ground would have to include trading Wolf, Coronato, and Bahl, in addition to all of the vets. If you're planning a 10 year "burn it to the ground" approach, they'll all be getting up in age when the competitive window opens. I think the Flames want to win with Wolf, Coronato, Brz, Gridin, and Parekh, so they are probably planning a slightly less than scorched earth approach.
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Those are my thoughts as well. Some people will read that and think it means they won’t trade Kadri or Coleman but I see it as they won’t trade all their best players so they can try and pick in the top 3 for the next several years. A decent portion of the flames top players are on the younger side and those guys are not going anywhere. I also think the Flames are okay picking high this year and maybe next but they do not plan to stay at the bottom once they move across the street so they will build with what they have and move on from some but not all the vets. Likely they will pick multiple times in the first round for 3-5 drafts in a row (including the last 2 where they already have)
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01-15-2026, 04:01 PM
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#21768
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Powerplay Quarterback
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Presents aren’t under the tree by the 3rd?! Well, there just might not be a Christmas this year.
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01-15-2026, 04:02 PM
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#21769
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First Line Centre
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I really wonder what edwards must think of huberdeau. It must driie him crazy.
The opportunity cost of taking this tkachuk deal verse another one.
Paying this guy nearly 100m to offensively lead your team and he's a complete dud. If hubby was around a ppg in his time with calgary im sure theyre in and out of playoffs, probably not bottom of the league.
All our oher UFA deal signed have performed at or above the level of their contracts during their time here (coleman, backlund, weegar, kadri, rasmus, lomberg)
Cant even dump him for nothing or change of scenery it.
Huberdeau has cost Edwards alot of money.
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01-15-2026, 04:05 PM
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#21770
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Ate 100 Treadmills
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Macindoc
Based their ages, burning it to the ground would have to include trading Wolf, Coronato, and Bahl, in addition to all of the vets. If you're planning a 10-14 year "burn it to the ground" approach, they'll all be getting up in age when the competitive window opens. I think the Flames want to win with Wolf, Coronato, Brz, Gridin, and Parekh, so they are probably planning a slightly less than scorched earth approach.
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Wolf and Parekh are the equivalent to top 5 picks. They'll likely get 2 more over the next two seasons. This year is almost guaranteed to be a good one. So at least 3 successful top picks. If you can't build a good team around that, then the problem isn't tanking/drafting it's everything else and no amount of tanking will cure that.
If you look at the teams that actually succeed, it's the ones who get a few top end draft picks and then build an effective team around them. The disaster franchises are the ones who draft 5+ top 5 picks.
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01-15-2026, 04:05 PM
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#21771
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Commie Referee
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Small town, B.C.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by traptor
I really wonder what edwards must think of huberdeau. It must driie him crazy.
The opportunity cost of taking this tkachuk deal verse another one.
Paying this guy nearly 100m to offensively lead your team and he's a complete dud. If hubby was around a ppg in his time with calgary im sure theyre in and out of playoffs, probably not bottom of the league.
All our oher UFA deal signed have performed at or above the level of their contracts during their time here (coleman, backlund, weegar, kadri, rasmus, lomberg)
Cant even dump him for nothing or change of scenery it.
Huberdeau has cost Edwards alot of money.
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Actually, that contract will help them hit the cap floor. Either way Edwards is paying a minimum to ice a team.
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01-15-2026, 04:06 PM
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#21772
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Scoring Winger
Join Date: Oct 2014
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by ComixZone
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At least word Rebuild was uttered.
Agree with many other posters.
We have a few pieces of future core already here that include players in mid 20s. No need to do "scorched earth Rebuild".
Just a "get rid of the all the old vets while they still have value Rebuild" that ME would like to call a Retool.
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01-15-2026, 04:07 PM
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#21773
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Vancouver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by traptor
The opportunity cost of taking this tkachuk deal verse another one.
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Does anyone recall what the other rumoured deal was? I seem to recall it was Necas, a 1st, plus, but don't know what the plus was. I think it was also said that Jarvis was absolutely not part of it.
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01-15-2026, 04:10 PM
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#21774
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by KootenayFlamesFan
Actually, that contract will help them hit the cap floor. Either way Edwards is paying a minimum to ice a team.
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You are missing the point though.
ME didn’t sign off on that contract to earn a participation medal. They wanted to ‘stay in it.’
If anything it should teach a hard lesson about being honest with yourself. When 13 and 19 left it was time to tear down and start again and draft new stars. They chose not too and that just prolonged the process of being a competitor again.
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01-15-2026, 04:13 PM
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#21775
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BrownDrake
If you are scared of being Buffalo, be better…don’t be Buffalo, be Pittsburgh, be Chicago, be Tampa Bay, be Colorado, be Florida, hell be Edmonton and lose in the finals twice in a row that’s progress.
Nope let’s not be Buffalo, we like Dallas, WTF has Dallas done?
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Dallas has lost in the finals once and made the semi finals 3 times in the last 6 years.
That's pretty good. That's a contender.
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01-15-2026, 04:15 PM
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#21776
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by PepsiFree
I for one am with Macho. I’m quietly praying for a Buffalo style rebuild, and we all should. Perhaps in 15 long, beautiful years from now, after 2-3 more rebuilds after the one we’re in, we’ll be lucky enough to be in a wild card spot half way through the season with a commanding 1 point lead on the next closest team.
This is the dream folks. If we believe, we CAN achieve.
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It is weird the implied desire of some on this board to be bad for 10-15 years. But each to their own I guess.
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01-15-2026, 04:16 PM
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#21777
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Calgary
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Maybe. But I would counter with two points:
- What information did he even present in that post? Nothing but a vague reference to not wanting to end up like Buffalo - which is the exact same thing he has been saying for months. So again, nothing new to see here.
- What about the comment says anything contrary to what it appears the Flames are actually doing (i.e. continuing to sell vets and execute their rebiggle)?
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No new information doesn’t discredit him though. The same message being repeated more or less consistently might be the message, and the fact it doesn’t change as we get closer to the deadline, with the flames all but out of it, is his information.
We will see. I hope we see this narrative completely blown up, I just find it a bit strange the lengths folks go to discredit him or any other insider that criticizes ownership.
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01-15-2026, 04:17 PM
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#21778
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Franchise Player
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Enoch Root
Well perhaps - just spit balling here - perhaps he has enough time in the day to try and engage ALL the fanbases, even the '16th most engaged' ones.
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No, his entire business model is based off of things like clicks but it is only the top 15 teams that he tries to get clicks from. Guy ain’t greedy.
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01-15-2026, 04:18 PM
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#21779
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Quote:
Originally Posted by traptor
I really wonder what edwards must think of huberdeau. It must driie him crazy.
The opportunity cost of taking this tkachuk deal verse another one.
Paying this guy nearly 100m to offensively lead your team and he's a complete dud. If hubby was around a ppg in his time with calgary im sure theyre in and out of playoffs, probably not bottom of the league.
All our oher UFA deal signed have performed at or above the level of their contracts during their time here (coleman, backlund, weegar, kadri, rasmus, lomberg)
Cant even dump him for nothing or change of scenery it.
Huberdeau has cost Edwards alot of money.
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If the flames net a profit every year then he has cost Edwards no money.
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01-15-2026, 04:19 PM
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#21780
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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Y'know the thing that most unites Buffalo and Calgary are long term reports of meddlesome ownership.
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