So it feels to me like something Doomsday is planning is going to rely on the kids of the heroes.
Franklin was already important in F4. The Captain America trailer focused on his baby. Thor's trailer focused on Love. Cyclops was focused on in trailer 3...and Nathan / Cable has long been an important figure in X-Men lore.
I see where you're coming from but...I kind of hope not. Because, frankly, those characters suck.
Then again, we've had, what? A decade plus of Marvel magic? The people who got on board with Iron Man...we're old now. Making a movie starring the heroes' kids does make sense from a marketing perspective.
Because us old people will be bringing kids and Marvel knows its high time to indoctrinate the next generation of movie-goers.
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Then again, we've had, what? A decade plus of Marvel magic?
The first Iron Man came out in May 2008. Avengers: Secret Wars is currently scheduled for release in December 2027, but with the way these things go, it will probably get pushed back until at least spring 2028... which would bring it to 20 years of the MCU.
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The first Iron Man came out in May 2008. Avengers: Secret Wars is currently scheduled for release in December 2027, but with the way these things go, it will probably get pushed back until at least spring 2028... which would bring it to 20 years of the MCU.
I was trying to sugarcoat it so we dont all feel super old.
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Every one of these things erodes confidence that movie will be any good. It's just too much stuff packed in, much of it unsupported or weakly supported. Yeah, there were a lot of moving parts to Infinity War, but we'd had at least one full movie - and usually several - behind each character or group of characters in the mix, and those movies were woven in together and released sequentially without major gaps so it was the culmination of one long story.
I am very skeptical.
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Here's the thing...I think this is what they were always building towards.
The mutltiverse saga that started in End Game, was always building to this clash and collapse of universes.
Now the individual movies weren't executed well because the multiverse is kind of complex and annoying and was the whole reason the comics tried to move away from it too.
But End Game, Dr.Strange Wandaverse, No Way Home, Loki, GoTG 3 (introducing the idea of the same "person" in different multiverses), The Marvels, Ant-Man, F4 were all building blocks for a epic multiverse collapse / incursion.
And then the other films like Shang-Chi, Thor, Black Panther, ThunderBolts, were just introducing characters and teams that will be important.
I actually think if they land this right, then people will look back at everything since EndGame more favourably. Which is actually exactly what happened with Avengers 1 and then Infinity War / End Game too. Since a lot of the build up movies in those sagas weren't loved at the time either.
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Ultimately, I watch movies to enjoy myself. It just takes an inordinate amount of work to get over my own jaded, pessimistic outlook on, well, everything.
Despite a string of lackluster projects since Endgame, I'm always willing to give the MCU the benefit of the doubt - so I hope you're right.
I have generally really enjoyed the MCU, at a time Civil War and Infinity War were almost certainly two of my favorite movies ever. And I am definitely going to be there opening weekend to watch Doomsday, but am just not that excited for it.
I think people trash a lot of the new stuff a lot more than it deserves, especially phase 4, but the big sin of the MCU the past 6 years has been a refusal to let go of their first 12 years, and tell new stories. Now seemingly they are doubling down on that in the most aggressive way possible claiming another 15 years of separate content. I liked No Way Home, and like Deadpool Wolverine, but imo opinion those two films are one of the three biggest things that have undermined the continuation of the MCU project, in bringing in even more, and even more complicated canon to the story. The other two things being not following up on their new characters, and refusing to let go of there dead characters.
Stories need to respect the history of past films and even mention it sometimes, but they cannot complicate the history of past films, or contradict them. And new characters need 2-4 outings to become as beloved as some of the old ones.
