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Old 10-31-2025, 10:35 PM   #3241
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If it bounced there wouldnt have been much different...maybe one run
Yup. Think you’re right.
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Old 10-31-2025, 10:36 PM   #3242
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Yes he does. But his energy is understandable in the situation, and the ball looked like a hit off the bat. But the fielder was charging in hard a d as a result, it was a really short throw.

Easy to say he should have waited but the whole situation was very unusual and happened very fast. One step too many where it wouldn't have been too many in most situations
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Betts even said on Fox after game 'I knew that was dropping in and all of a sudden he was there'.
He ####ed up there. Meh. Curious if Straw tagged up?
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Old 10-31-2025, 10:37 PM   #3243
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If it bounced there wouldnt have been much different...maybe one run
Yeah, as nice as it would have been I don't think Barger is getting to third. And he probably still makes that mistake.
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Old 10-31-2025, 10:37 PM   #3244
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Blue Jays just had their "it was in" moment with the lodged ball...
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Old 10-31-2025, 10:37 PM   #3245
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The Jays chase Yamamoto before the 7th, get 4 guys in scoring position after that, but can't cash any of them in. The game plan worked out exactly like they would have wanted but zero clutch hits when it really mattered, that's not the team we've seen for the last month
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Old 10-31-2025, 10:38 PM   #3246
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If it bounced there wouldnt have been much different...maybe one run
Not at all, run scores and makes it 3-2 and clement is bunting barger to third. One run game with 1 out. We probably see a pincher hitter for Gimenz when all you need is a sac fly to tie it.
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Old 10-31-2025, 10:39 PM   #3247
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Blue Jays just had their "it was in" moment with the lodged ball...
Not even close.

that's a rule and they called it properly.

Even if they get the ball out, I doubt Barger scores and it's still 3-2.

that's baseball...get over it.
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Old 10-31-2025, 10:40 PM   #3248
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The Jays chase Yamamoto before the 7th, get 4 guys in scoring position after that, but can't cash any of them in. The game plan worked out exactly like they would have wanted but zero clutch hits when it really mattered, that's not the team we've seen for the last month
They had several hard hit balls.

Sometimes bloopers.find a.hole and sometimes you hit line drives right into gloves
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Old 10-31-2025, 10:41 PM   #3249
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Blue Jays just had their "it was in" moment with the lodged ball...
I think the equvalent to that would have been down 3-2 with the bases loaded, 2 out, and a full count and the ump calls a ball a strike.
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Old 10-31-2025, 10:42 PM   #3250
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The Dodgers were playing shallow to throw out a potential tag. Barger needed to make his first move back to second until the ball hits the ground. You can’t even think about scoring there until it drops.
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Old 10-31-2025, 10:43 PM   #3251
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Jays outhit them 8-4
Unacceptable to score 1 while allowing 3 with that hit count.
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Old 10-31-2025, 10:44 PM   #3252
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Yeah the lodged ball is a non thing
Confusing for the fans at the ball park perhaps but it was the right call without question
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Old 10-31-2025, 10:44 PM   #3253
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Just crazy that the ball got lodged there. Absolutely never happened in a game in Rogers Centre and then happens in the 9th inning of the biggest game possible (until tomorrow).
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Old 10-31-2025, 10:44 PM   #3254
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Yeah if the outfield was playing normal depth it lands but if Barger looked over his shoulder before the first pitch to Giminez he sees that Hernandez moved in. Betts knew too, if he didn’t he’s as dumb as Barger.
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The Jays chase Yamamoto before the 7th, get 4 guys in scoring position after that, but can't cash any of them in. The game plan worked out exactly like they would have wanted but zero clutch hits when it really mattered, that's not the team we've seen for the last month

They all needed to take an extra beat and a breath. Even Vladdy signaled that to Bo in the 8th. Calm down, breathe.

As the night progresses, I'm a bit more upset at Clement, that needs to be a productive out. Again, see what Glasnow has for you, make him earn the out. I don't know if he'd ever come out of the bullpen before.

I hope Kirk is okay sounds like x-rays, hopefully precautionary
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3-2, two runners on and zero outs? I'd say that would have been massive. You could small ball and sacrifice the runner on second in to score to tie the game.
So how are you getting a run and two runners on from the lodged ball? It doesn’t become two hits instead of one.

The runner on third never really mattered. Unless you think it would have been a triple, it just doesn’t seem like a huge deal.

And honestly ground rule doubles are just a very routine part of baseball.
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They needed to get to the guy that replaced Yamamoto and instead they let Roberts off the hook. I would have had him pitch atleast one more inning.
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The Dodgers were playing shallow to throw out a potential tag. Barger needed to make his first move back to second until the ball hits the ground. You can’t even think about scoring there until it drops.
Was Sraw tagged up?
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Not at all, run scores and makes it 3-2 and clement is bunting barger to third. One run game with 1 out. We probably see a pincher hitter for Gimenz when all you need is a sac fly to tie it.
Easier said than done...could have hit a sac fly in the situation they were in but didnt
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Nothing wrong with the lodged ball.
And on the play, maybe Miles scores, maybe. Depends on how the outfielders picked it up and got it back in. At worst it’s still 2nd and 3rd at best Miles scores and Barger at second. With zero out.
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