10-01-2025, 12:25 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Ontario
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Guess STL didn't like Morton that much
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10-01-2025, 12:38 PM
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#42
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Not a casual user
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: A simple man leading a complicated life....
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Guess STL didn't like Morton that much
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Probably too salty for them 
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10-01-2025, 12:51 PM
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#43
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: Park Hyatt Tokyo
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Once you are on waiver unclaimed, you are not really in ‘the plan’ any more, unless your game improves significantly. The flames are also deep in fringe prospects, next.
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It's a lot more nuanced than that.
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10-01-2025, 12:53 PM
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#44
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Scoring Winger
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Originally Posted by Flamesfan05
Once you are on waiver unclaimed, you are not really in ‘the plan’ any more, unless your game improves significantly. The flames are also deep in fringe prospects, next.
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Teams waive players with potential all the time. Pospisil was waived in 2023. Gustav Forsling was famously waived. There will always be players you want to keep but have to risk losing because there’s no room on the big club.
There are also the Dryden Hunts of the world- quality spare parts you sign knowing they’ll have to clear waivers given their age.
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10-01-2025, 01:16 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Cowtown
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Some putz named Martin St Louis was on waivers and went unclaimed.
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10-01-2025, 01:21 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Auckland, NZ
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Originally Posted by mogg
Teams waive players with potential all the time. Pospisil was waived in 2023. Gustav Forsling was famously waived. There will always be players you want to keep but have to risk losing because there’s no room on the big club.
There are also the Dryden Hunts of the world- quality spare parts you sign knowing they’ll have to clear waivers given their age.
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Related note - wasn't Kristian Huselius waived by the Panthers at one point, and then traded to Calgary shortly thereafter for Steve Montador? Dude turned his damn career around here, what a pickup for us.
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10-01-2025, 01:25 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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There's a long list of players who were waived that went on to contribute, because it's not as black and white as "This guy sucks"
Forsling and St Louis were on waivers and unclaimed. Markstrom went on waivers and was unclaimed. Michael Grabner was claimed and scored 30 goals. Martin Gelinas was claimed on waivers and went on to score 30 twice I believe. Chris Kunitz was claimed on waivers twice. Rich Peverly was claimed on waivers. Carter Verhaege cleared waivers. Sam Montembeault was a waiver claim.
Most of the time they go nowhere but some of them do come back.
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10-01-2025, 02:12 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Alberta
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I am very relieved, personally, that Kuznetsov wasn't claimed. I got to watch 2 preseason games, and both had Kuz looking like one of the better defenders on the ice. He is not flashy at all, and he could mix in more physicality, but IMO he is a perfect middle pairing long term potential player for us to build around. A great future partner for Brzu (though I have to say I was way less impressed with Brzu this season.)
I think the choices they made this summer made good roster construction basically impossible. We are carrying too many tweener players with no potential upside and ultimately blocking our younger tweeners from coming up and showing that they have more upside.
Alas, it doesn't matter. IMO the lineup we are proposing will be bottom 10 in the NHL, which may be the goal and I would support that being the goal.
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10-01-2025, 02:16 PM
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#1 Goaltender
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Calgary
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Originally Posted by Monahammer
I am very relieved, personally, that Kuznetsov wasn't claimed. I got to watch 2 preseason games, and both had Kuz looking like one of the better defenders on the ice. He is not flashy at all, and he could mix in more physicality, but IMO he is a perfect middle pairing long term potential player for us to build around. A great future partner for Brzu (though I have to say I was way less impressed with Brzu this season.)
I think the choices they made this summer made good roster construction basically impossible. We are carrying too many tweener players with no potential upside and ultimately blocking our younger tweeners from coming up and showing that they have more upside.
Alas, it doesn't matter. IMO the lineup we are proposing will be bottom 10 in the NHL, which may be the goal and I would support that being the goal.
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I was with you until that second paragraph. In no way will tweeners with no upside block tweeners with upside. They are tweeners. You probably can't tell what the upside is with them, and if you can (the Kirkland types), they aren't blocking anyone.
As for bottom 10, I mean maybe? I thought they were a lock for bottom 5 last year and was wrong. I think they are better this year, but have no idea where they will place.
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10-01-2025, 02:18 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Central Alberta
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Originally Posted by FlamesAddiction
Some of the time even when these guys get claimed, they get a little tryout with the new team and go back on waivers. I think one guy went back and forth a few times last season.
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Yep, stellar Grease Pig draft pick Rafeal Lavoie. Bounced back and forth between Edmonton and Vegas a few times.
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10-01-2025, 03:54 PM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Boca Raton, FL
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Originally Posted by gvitaly
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I am blown away by the fact that teams keep giving Jost a chance after disappointing literally every where he's played.
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10-01-2025, 05:29 PM
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#52
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Ontario
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Originally Posted by Rejean31
Yep, stellar Grease Pig draft pick Rafeal Lavoie. Bounced back and forth between Edmonton and Vegas a few times.
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Consider one Jarrod Skalde:
1997-Aug-14 Signed by San Jose Sharks
1998-Jan-08 Claimed off waivers by Chicago Blackhawks from San Jose Sharks
1998-Jan-23 Claimed off waivers by San Jose Sharks from Chicago Blackhawks
1998-Jan-27 Claimed off waivers by Dallas Stars from San Jose Sharks
1998-Feb-10 Claimed off waivers by Chicago Blackhawks from Dallas Stars
1998-Mar-06 Claimed off waivers by San Jose Sharks from Chicago Blackhawks
https://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/...y.php?pid=4991
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