American Politics 4.0 - Orangeyou Glad He’s Back?

[Duruss]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Fuzz you are an extremist. It is what it is. I don't hold it against you as I think your heart is in the right place but you are too far gone to be reasoned with. I think too many of you are using Trump as a boogeyman here equating what's going on in the US to what would happen in Canada under a Conservative government. Like I said before I'm happy with Carney right now because I want what's best for the country but the Liberals under Trudeau weren't that at all, and if the Liberals revert back to that my patience will be tested especially if the Conservatives ever trot out a competent leader.

You seem to be one of the intentionally gullable. I'll listen to the warnings of actual experts like Robert Reich.

https://youtu.be/ApeoddPfpjs?si=PSD3i2sDXWqHi1wH

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by Looch City

Lol remember the Godwin's discussions back when Trump was just coming out of the woodworks?

Now look where we are.

At the time, I basically agreed with Frum's characterization: he said, "there are a lot of stops on the train to Hitler station". The train had not arrived at many of those stops yet, but had certainly crossed a few. It has, obviously, kept going.

Same is true here. It's not, for example, impossible that some Canadian conservative politician would think it's a good idea to take executive action under the guise of an alleged emergency to exert control over the streets of Ottawa to address criminal behaviour, in theory, but the only one to actually do it was Trudeau.

And the point - in case someone thinks I'm suggesting that was an equivalent act to what Trump just did - is precisely that although you can draw parallels between two actions by heads of state that appear similar in some ways, the context makes them wildly different in practice.

[Drak]

The freedom convoy was acting criminally. They were not straight up protesting. They were interfering with commerce, the Canadian economy and distributing the peace with constant noise. They were also being funded by the same dark money groups who funded Jan 6.

[Duruss]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

At the time, I basically agreed with Frum's characterization: he said, "there are a lot of stops on the train to Hitler station". The train had not arrived at many of those stops yet, but had certainly crossed a few. It has, obviously, kept going.

Same is true here. It's not, for example, impossible that some Canadian conservative politician would think it's a good idea to take executive action under the guise of an alleged emergency to exert control over the streets of Ottawa to address criminal behaviour, in theory, but the only one to actually do it was Trudeau.

Remember PP promised to use the notwithstanding clause to " make his laws legal". When some one tells you who they are believe them.

When you shake hands with the leader of diagolon, after he said he wants to rape your wife, you might just be showing, not telling, who you are.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

At the time, I basically agreed with Frum's characterization: he said, "there are a lot of stops on the train to Hitler station". The train had not arrived at many of those stops yet, but had certainly crossed a few. It has, obviously, kept going.

Same is true here. It's not, for example, impossible that some Canadian conservative politician would think it's a good idea to take executive action under the guise of an alleged emergency to exert control over the streets of Ottawa to address criminal behaviour, in theory, but the only one to actually do it was Trudeau.

Oh come on. The convoy was a bunch of ####ing hooligans that shut down our capital. A stop had to be put to it, and it was clear the only way they would leave would be the government and country capitulating to their insane demands.


It was an embarrassment it went on as long as it did, and that's only because Conservatives gave support to them to continue their illegal actions. The fact the organizers are going to jail is proof this went far beyond a legal protest.


But hey, the next time the "extreme left" takes over our capitol city and blocks boarder crossings while inciting EXTREMIST violence against the RCMP you can run a proper comparison of govenrment over reach.

[Drak]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

What "extreme" views do I hold?

Well, at least your heart is in the right place. You’re an extremist because you don’t want to join the USA as the 51st state for the sake of your children, I guess.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by Drak

The freedom convoy was acting criminally. They were not straight up protesting. They were interfering with commerce, the Canadian economy and distributing the peace with constant noise. They were also being funded by the same dark money groups who funded Jan 6.

Misrepresenting history is a handy way of pretending your argument has some validity.


If it was legal and peaceful, they wouldn't be in prison.

[Drak]

The new op I’m seeing is, “In Canada, you’re not allowed to walk in the woods anymore.”

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Well, that was a wholly predictable missing of the point that proves said point, even after I edited to make it explicit.

[Drak]

Your edit wasn’t seen until other posts were made. I was typing within that minute and I suspect Fuzz didn’t either because you can see where he quoted you, which doesn’t include your edit.

[Senator Clay Davis]

Anyway, can we get back to Trump being a pedo? Feels like it needs to be said every 40-50 posts.

[Drak]

What’s crazy is this was all known before the election in 2016. Then the GOP rolled out their projection op.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by Drak

The new op I’m seeing is, “In Canada, you’re not allowed to walk in the woods anymore.”

And its JT's fault of course

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Fuzz

What "extreme" views do I hold?

You challenged him. It’s pretty textbook behaviour for the passive-aggressive manipulator bully type. I looked it up on the internet!

I’ve experienced it first hand with him. Very funny to watch.

[Cappy]

Originally Posted by Erick Estrada

Are they? History shows that a lot of people align with a political party and will typically vote for that party over the course of decades. Are you saying the people that voted for Harper that weren't extreme are extreme today because they support the same party? Trudeau spent nearly his entire tenure bringing up Harper's name but less than a year out of office and we can no longer blame Trudeau for the state of the country? Like I said before it's all binary today which makes it hard to reason with people on either side of the political spectrum.

Harper did a good job of holding the extreme right back in the party; but they were always there. The PCs did the same for time - leading to a breakaway party of nutjobs that were later brought back in and given the keys.

[Red Slinger]

Originally Posted by Senator Clay Davis

Anyway, can we get back to Trump being a pedo? Feels like it needs to be said every 40-50 posts.

Yep. This DC crackdown is just another attempt to distract from Trump "allegedly" being a pedophile and on the Epstein list...or not list...or whatever. But yeah, that Trudeau guy eh?

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by Red Slinger

Yep. This DC crackdown is just another attempt to distract from Trump "allegedly" being a pedophile and on the Epstein list...or not list...or whatever. But yeah, that Trudeau guy eh?

I can’t believe we’re not allowed to talk about Trudeau in the American politics thread. The regressive left strikes again.

[Scroopy Noopers]

Originally Posted by Drak

The freedom convoy was acting criminally. They were not straight up protesting. They were interfering with commerce, the Canadian economy and distributing the peace with constant noise. They were also being funded by the same dark money groups who funded Jan 6.

I don’t wear many tinfoil hats, but there’s one I’ll wear forever: the Canadian flag usage was a deliberate move to fracture Canadian identity amongst us.

[SutterBrother]

Originally Posted by WideReceiver

Hasek speaks out, a thread.

https://twitter.com/user/status/1955025015235076507

What did he say?

[KelVarnsen]

Originally Posted by SutterBrother

What did he say?

https://twitter-thread.com/t/1955025015235076507