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				He's got Cootes-Kindel-Reschny at 15, 16, 17.  There's not much separating those three centres in terms of size. 
			
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I'd rank those three in the reverse order. Reschny, Kindel, and then Cootes. Reschny in the playoffs alone was a stand out. Cootes didn't have enough of a supporting cast to show  what he can really do.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-17-2025, 05:15 PM
			
			
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			06-17-2025, 06:07 PM
			
			
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				New full draft mock from Pronman.  
https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/642...ounds-pronman/
Flames get:  
18- Reschny 
31 - Gastrin  
54 - Schmidt  
80 - Liam Pettersson (D) 
144 - Tinus Luc Koblar (great pick if only for the name!) 
175 - Owen Griffin  
208 - Andreas Straka
 
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What! This is the worst possible outcome…now if your able to draft Gastrin at 32, that would be amazing
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-17-2025, 06:24 PM
			
			
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				I'd rank those three in the reverse order. Reschny, Kindel, and then Cootes. Reschny in the playoffs alone was a stand out. Cootes didn't have enough of a supporting cast to show  what he can really do. 
			
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When Cootes did have the support at the U18s he led Canada in points and is probably pretty similar level offensively to Reschny and Kindel. Id still rank them just like you did though, Id rather the Flames draft Reschny -  Kindel - Cootes.
 
Cootes - 7gp 12p 
Reschny - 5gp 8p 
Kindel - 5gp 7p
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
				  
				
					
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			06-17-2025, 07:33 PM
			
			
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			Thanks Bingo! This is what I was thinking, trying to see how far someone might fall but also how varied it gets the more you go down. 
	Code: 
	
	      Name	Pos	Rank	Pick	Delta
1	M Celebrini	C	1	1	0
2	Ivan Demidov	RW	2.59	5	-2.41
3	A Levshunov	D	4.59	2	2.59
4	Zeev Buium	D	5.91	12	-6.09
5	C Lindstrom	C	7.05	4	3.05
6	Sam Dickinson	D	7.64	11	-3.36
7	Zayne Parekh	D	7.77	9	-1.23
8	Berkly Catton	C	8	8	0
9	Tij Iginla	C	8.5	6	2.5
10	Anton Silayev	D	9.5	10	-0.5
11	Konsta Helenius	C	10.82	14	-3.18
12	Cole Eiserman	LW	11.41	20	-8.59
13	C Yakemchuk	D	13.36	7	6.36
14	Brand-Nygard	RW	14.86	15	-0.14
15	B Sennecke	RW	15.45	3	12.45
16	Liam Greentree	RW	17.64	26	-8.36
17	I Chernyshov	LW	18.57	33	-14.43
18	Trevor Connelly	LW	18.64	19	-0.36
19	Michael Hage	C	18.82	21	-2.18
20	Adam Jiricek	D	19.6	16	3.6
21	Sacha Boisvert	C	24.71	18	6.71
22	N Artamonov	LW	27.16	50	-22.84
23	Stian Solberg	D	27.38	23	4.38
24	Emil Hemming	F	27.44	29	-1.56
25	Jett Luchanko	C	27.48	13	14.48
26	Andrew Basha	LW	27.6	41	-13.4
27	Ryder Ritchie	RW	29.36	45	-15.64
28	Terik Parascak	RW	29.7	17	12.7
29	E.J. Emery	D	30.71	30	0.71
30	Alfons Freij	D	34.06	37	-2.94
31	Teddy Stiga	F	34.53	55	-20.47
32	Yegor Surin	F	35.33	22	13.33
33	Cole Beaudoin	C	36.06	24	12.06
34	L Pettersson		36.87	35	1.87
35	S Wallenius		38.78	53	-14.22
36	M Vanacker		39.17	24	15.17
37	Charlie Elick	D	39.47	36	3.47
38	Dom Badinka		40	34	6
39	Henry Mews	D	40.27	74	-33.73
40	Aron Kiviharju	D	41.06	122	-80.94
41	J Miettinen		41.67	40	1.67
42	Matvei Gridin	F	41.75	28	13.75
43	Linus Eriksson	F	41.88	58	-16.12 
 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-17-2025, 08:30 PM
			
			
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				Thanks Bingo! This is what I was thinking, trying to see how far someone might fall but also how varied it gets the more you go down. 
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1	M Celebrini	C	1	1	0
2	Ivan Demidov	RW	2.59	5	-2.41
3	A Levshunov	D	4.59	2	2.59
4	Zeev Buium	D	5.91	12	-6.09
5	C Lindstrom	C	7.05	4	3.05
6	Sam Dickinson	D	7.64	11	-3.36
7	Zayne Parekh	D	7.77	9	-1.23
8	Berkly Catton	C	8	8	0
9	Tij Iginla	C	8.5	6	2.5
10	Anton Silayev	D	9.5	10	-0.5
11	Konsta Helenius	C	10.82	14	-3.18
12	Cole Eiserman	LW	11.41	20	-8.59
13	C Yakemchuk	D	13.36	7	6.36
14	Brand-Nygard	RW	14.86	15	-0.14
15	B Sennecke	RW	15.45	3	12.45
16	Liam Greentree	RW	17.64	26	-8.36
17	I Chernyshov	LW	18.57	33	-14.43
18	Trevor Connelly	LW	18.64	19	-0.36
19	Michael Hage	C	18.82	21	-2.18
20	Adam Jiricek	D	19.6	16	3.6
21	Sacha Boisvert	C	24.71	18	6.71
22	N Artamonov	LW	27.16	50	-22.84
23	Stian Solberg	D	27.38	23	4.38
24	Emil Hemming	F	27.44	29	-1.56
25	Jett Luchanko	C	27.48	13	14.48
26	Andrew Basha	LW	27.6	41	-13.4
27	Ryder Ritchie	RW	29.36	45	-15.64
28	Terik Parascak	RW	29.7	17	12.7
29	E.J. Emery	D	30.71	30	0.71
30	Alfons Freij	D	34.06	37	-2.94
31	Teddy Stiga	F	34.53	55	-20.47
32	Yegor Surin	F	35.33	22	13.33
33	Cole Beaudoin	C	36.06	24	12.06
34	L Pettersson		36.87	35	1.87
35	S Wallenius		38.78	53	-14.22
36	M Vanacker		39.17	24	15.17
37	Charlie Elick	D	39.47	36	3.47
38	Dom Badinka		40	34	6
39	Henry Mews	D	40.27	74	-33.73
40	Aron Kiviharju	D	41.06	122	-80.94
41	J Miettinen		41.67	40	1.67
42	Matvei Gridin	F	41.75	28	13.75
43	Linus Eriksson	F	41.88	58	-16.12 
 
 
			
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The big fallers that I see that are steals are Chernyshov and Artamonov. Interesting cause they're both Russian players that played in Russia (Chernyshov played in Saginaw this year). Maybe that means without actual eyes on these prospects, teams shied away from taking them too early? Or, I'm taking a really small sample size and cherry-picking. Either way, let's draft Alexander Zharovsky.
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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			06-18-2025, 10:55 AM
			
			
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19 rankings 
6 appearances needed to get an average 
Flames ranges in bold
 
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1	M Schaefer	D	1.16
2	Michael Misa	C	2.11
3	James Hagens	C	3.95
4	Porter Martone	RW	4.47
5	Anton Frondell	C	5.26
6	C Desnoyers	C	6.11
7	Victor Eklund	LW	8.47
8	Jake O'Brien	C	9.26
9	Radim Mrtka	D	11.32
10	Brady Martin	C	11.53
11	Roger McQueen	C	11.74
12	Jackson Smith	D	11.84
13	Carter Bear	C	14.26
14	K Aitcheson	D	16.61
15	Braeden Cootes	C	17.61
16	J Carbonneau	RW	17.74
17	Lynden Lakovic	LW	18.11
18	Cole Reschny	C	19.95
19	Logan Hensler	D	20.74
20	Malcolm Spence	LW	20.83
21	Cameron Reid	D	21.00
22	Benjamin Kindel	RW	22.11
23	Cullen Potter	C	23.50
24	J Ravensbergen	G	26.31
25	Jack Nesbitt	C	26.82
26	Blake Fiddler	D	27.67
27	Bill Zonnon	Lw	27.78
28	S Boumedienne	D	28.26
29	Cam Schmidt	RW	29.18
30	Milton Gästrin	C	29.94
31	Ivan Ryabkin	C	31.56
32	Jack Murtagh	C	33.06
33	William Moore	C	33.15
34	J Ihs-Wozniak	RW	33.75
35	Cole McKinney	C	35.69
36	H Brzustewicz	D	36.00
37	Shane Vansaghi	C	37.17
38	Ryker Lee	   RW	37.57
39	Eric Nilson	      C	38.50
40	William Horcoff	C	40.29
41	Jack Ivankovic	G	40.69
42	Kurban Limatov	D	43.58
43	Adam Benák	C	44.82
44	Eddie Genborg	LW	45.15
45	Alex Zharovsky	RW	46.00
46	Haoxi Wang	D	48.85
47	Nathan Behm	LW	50.92
48	Ethan Czata	C	52.64
49	V Nestrasil	RW	52.79
50	Luca Romano	C	53.67
51	C Trethewey	D	57.14
52	Benjamin Kevan	RW	57.21
53	Vojtech Cihar	LW	57.70
54	Owen Conrad	D	58.13
55	Matthew Gard	C	59.58
56	Conrad Fondrk	C	59.70
57	Tyler Hopkins	C	60.17
58	P Andreyanov	G	60.30
59	L.J. Mooney	RW	61.82
60	K Epperson	LW	62.00
61	Michal Pradel	G	62.75
62	D Prokhorov	RW	63.75
63	Carter Amico	D	63.80
64	Max Psenicka	D	64.88 
 
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
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			06-18-2025, 01:01 PM
			
			
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 Sandman's Final List:
Tier 1: 
1) D Matt Schafer 
2) C Mike Misa
 
Tier 2: 
3) C Caleb Desnoyers 
4) RW Porter Martone 
5) C Anton Frondell
 
Tier 3: 
6) C Roger McQueen 
7) C James Hagens
 
Tier 4: 
8) C Jake O'Brien 
9) C Brady Martin 
10) LW Viktor Eklund 
11) D Radim Mrtka
 
Tier 5: 
12) D Jackson Smith
 
Tier 6: 
13) RW Justin Carbonneau 
14) LW Lynden Lakovic 
15) D Kashawn Aitcheson 
16) D Logan Hensler
 
Tier 7: 
17) C Cole Reschny 
18) C Carter Bear 
19) C Braeden Cootes 
20) C Bill Zonnon 
21) LW Malcolm Spence
 
Tier 8: 
22) C Jack Nesbitt 
23) C Ivan Ryabkin 
24) C Ben Kindel
 
Tier 9: 
25) D Cam Reid 
26) G Josh Ravensbergen 
27) C Will Horcoff 
28) LW Jakob Ihs-Wozniak
 
Tier 10: 
29) D Blake Fiddler 
30) C Jack Murtagh 
31) D Henry Brzustewicz 
32) C Milton Gastrin
 
ROUND TWO:
 
Tier 11: 
33) C Cole McKinney 
34) LW Eddie Genborg 
35) C Will Moore 
36) D Sascha Boumedienne 
37) RW Shane Vansaghi
 
Tier 12: 
38) C Mateo Nobert 
39) G Jack Ivankovic 
40) C Ethan Czata 
41) C Cullen Potter 
42) C Luca Romano 
43) RW Cam Schmidt 
44) G Alexei Medvedev 
45) LW Nathan Behm 
46) D Kurban Limatov
 
Tier 13: 
47) D Alex Huang 
48) RW Alex Zharovsky 
49) D Charlie Trethewey 
50) C Tyler Hopkins 
51) RW Ben Kevan 
52) C Eric Nilson 
53) C Matthew Gard
 
Tier 14: 
54) C Ryker Lee 
55) D Haoxi Wang 
56) G Semyon Frolov 
57) D Lasse Boelius
 
Tier 15: 
58) G Pyotr Andreyanov 
59) D Maxim Agafonov 
60) D Evan Passmore 
61) C Hayden Paupanekis 
62) D Maddox Labre 
63) C Owen Martin 
64) RW Arvid Drott
 
ROUND THREE:
 
Tier 16: 
65) C Conrad Fondrk 
66) D Artyom Vilchinsky 
67) D Owen Conrad 
68) RW Shamar Moses 
69) C Tommy Lafreniere 
70) RW Aiden Lane 
71) D Carlos Handel 
72) D Carter Amico 
73) LW Kristian Epperson 
74) C Jimmy Lombardi
 
Tier 17: 
75) LW Vojtech Cihar 
76) D Will Reynolds 
77) G Love Haremstam 
78) RW Vaclav Nestrasil 
79) C Carson Cameron 
80) LW Zach Morin 
81) LW Tomas Poletin 
82) C Mason West 
83) D Max Psenicka 
84) D Reese Hamilton 
85) LW Emile Guite' 
86) D Asher Barnett 
87) C Teddy Mutryn 
88) D Will Sharpe 
89) D Peyton Kettles
 
Tier 18: 
90) D Karl Annborn 
91) LW Melvin Novotny 
92) D Jacob Rombach 
93) RW Daniil Prokhorov 
94) G Lucas Beckman 
95) LW David Bedkowski 
96) D Mace'o Phillips
 
ROUND FOUR:
 
Tier 19: 
97) RW Theo Stockselius 
98) LW David Lewandowski 
99) C Jan Chovan 
100) LW Max Westergard 
101) G Ondrej Stebetak 
102) LW Mason Moe 
103) C Dominik Pavlik 
104) C Mikkel Eriksen 
105) G Gabriel D'Aigle 
106) D Quinn Beauchesne 
107) G Petteri Rimpinen 
108) C Gustav Hillstrom 
109) D Zeb Lindgren
 
Tier 20: 
110) G Patrik Kerkola 
111) D Malte Vass 
112) D Noah Laberge 
113) RW Bruno Osmanis 
114) D Anthony Allain-Samake 
115) C Tomas Pobezal 
116) D Makar Fomin 
117) C Oscar Davidsson 
118) LW Will Belle 
119) LW Filip Ekberg 
120) D Daniil Skvortsov 
121) D Dakota Rheaume-Mullen
 
Tier 21: 
122) D Sean Barnhill 
123) C Charlie Cerrato 
124) D Everett Baldwin 
125) RW Lirim Amidovski 
126) LW David Rozsival 
127) LW Viktor Klingsell 
128) C Lucas Karmiris 
Last edited by Sandman; 05-21-2025 at 05:15 AM. 
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 Bingo's Consolidated Rankings
Updated averages (June-18-2025) Bingo's Updated consolidated rankings list. 
 
19 rankings
1	M Schaefer	D	1.16
 
2	Michael Misa	C	2.11
 
3	James Hagens	C	3.95 
4	Porter Martone	RW	4.47 
5	Anton Frondell	C	5.26 
6	C Desnoyers	C	6.11
 
7	Victor Eklund	LW	8.47 
8	Jake O'Brien	C	9.26
 
9	Radim Mrtka	D	11.32 
10	Brady Martin	C	11.53 
11	Roger McQueen	C	11.74 
12	Jackson Smith	D	11.84
 
13	Carter Bear	C	14.26
 
14	K Aitcheson	D	16.61 
15	Braeden Cootes	C	17.61 
16	J Carbonneau	RW	17.74 
17	Lynden Lakovic	LW	18.11
 
18	Cole Reschny	C	19.95 
19	Logan Hensler	D	20.74 
20	Malcolm Spence	LW	20.83 
21	Cameron Reid	D	21.00 
22	Benjamin Kindel	RW	22.11
 
23	Cullen Potter	C	23.50
 
24	J Ravensbergen	G	26.31 
25	Jack Nesbitt	C	26.82 
26	Blake Fiddler	D	27.67 
27	Bill Zonnon	Lw	27.78 
28	S Boumedienne	D	28.26 
29	Cam Schmidt	RW	29.18 
30	Milton Gästrin	C	29.94
 
31	Ivan Ryabkin	C	31.56
 
32	Jack Murtagh	C	33.06 
33	William Moore	C	33.15 
34	J Ihs-Wozniak	RW	33.75 
35	Cole McKinney	C	35.69 
36	H Brzustewicz	D	36.00 
37	Shane Vansaghi	C	37.17 
38	Ryker Lee	   RW	37.57 
39	Eric Nilson	      C	38.50 
40	William Horcoff	C	40.29 
41	Jack Ivankovic	G	40.69 
42	Kurban Limatov	D	43.58 
43	Adam Benák	C	44.82 
44	Eddie Genborg	LW	45.15 
45	Alex Zharovsky	RW	46.00 
46	Haoxi Wang	D	48.85 
47	Nathan Behm	LW	50.92 
48	Ethan Czata	C	52.64 
49	V Nestrasil	RW	52.79 
50	Luca Romano	C	53.67 
51	C Trethewey	D	57.14 
52	Benjamin Kevan	RW	57.21 
53	Vojtech Cihar	LW	57.70 
54	Owen Conrad	D	58.13 
55	Matthew Gard	C	59.58 
56	Conrad Fondrk	C	59.70 
57	Tyler Hopkins	C	60.17 
58	P Andreyanov	G	60.30 
59	L.J. Mooney	RW	61.82 
60	K Epperson	LW	62.00 
61	Michal Pradel	G	62.75 
62	D Prokhorov	RW	63.75 
63	Carter Amico	D	63.80 
64	Max Psenicka	D	64.88 
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Upside Hockey's 2025 NHL Draft Rankings: November Edition 
Our Top 96 Prospects with NHL Central Scouting's Players to Watch
 
Substack article link:
 https://upsidehockey.substack.com/p/...t-rankings-ad3
Direct Upside Hockey Link:
 https://www.upsidehockey.com/nhl-dra...draft-rankings
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Sandman's Draft Preliminary Rankings (Top-100) 
2025 NHL Draft Rankings: Sandman's Winter is Coming Edition 
Upside Hockey’s prolific prospect profiler Trevor Curtis's alternative draft rankings
 https://upsidehockey.substack.com/p/...kings-sandmans
1) C James Hagens 
2) RW Porter Martone 
3) C Mike Misa 
4) D Matt Schaefer 
5) C Roger McQueen 
6) C Anton Frondell 
7) D Jackson Smith 
8) C Ivan Ryabkin 
9) LW Victor Eklund 
10) C Caleb Desnoyers 
11) LW Malcolm Spence 
12) C Will Moore 
13) D Logan Hensler 
14) RW Justin Carbonneau 
15) C Jake O'Brien 
16) C Carter Bear 
17) D Radim Mrtka 
18) LW Nathan Behm 
19) C Brady Martin 
20) D Cameron Reid 
21) D Kashawn Aitcheson 
22) C Jack Murtagh 
23) LW Lynden Lakovic 
24) G Josh Ravensbergen 
25) D Charlie Trethewey 
26) D Blake Fiddler 
27) LW Cole Reschny 
28) LW Jacob Ihs-Wozniak 
29) C Braeden Cootes 
30) C Milton Gastrin 
31) RW Cam Schmidt 
32) LW Bill Zonnon
 
33) C Tyler Hopkins 
34) D Kurban Limatov 
35) RW Shane Vansaghi 
36) LW Emile Guite' 
37) RW Ben Kevan 
38) C Cole McKinney 
39) D Sascha Boumedienne 
40) LW Zachary Morin 
41) C Conrad Fondrk 
42) G Jack Ivankovic 
43) D Alex Huang 
44) C Jack Nesbitt 
45) D Jesper Kotajarvi 
46) RW Ben Kindel 
47) C Jordan Gavin 
48) LW Cullen Potter 
49) D Carter Amico 
50) C Luca Romano 
51) D Owen Conrad 
52) D Will Sharpe 
53) F Melvin Novotny 
54) C Eric Nilson 
55) RW Eddie Genborg 
56) D Carson Cameron 
57) G Love Haremstam 
58) LW Tomas Poletin 
59) RW Travis Hayes 
60) D Dakoda Rheaume-Mullen 
61) D Henry Brzustewicz 
62) G Semyon Frolov 
63) LW Mason Moe 
64) D Reese Hamilton
 
65) LW Max Westergard 
66) D Luka Radivojevic 
67) LW David Lewandowski 
68) C Adam Benak 
69) C Jan Chovan 
70) C Tomas Pobezal 
71) C Liam Kilfoil 
72) C Mikkel Eriksen 
73) D Asher Barnett 
74) C Oscar Davidsson 
75) C Phillippe Veilleux 
76) LW Filip Ekberg 
77) G Pyotr Andreyanov 
78) D Karl Annborn 
79) C Dominik Pavlik 
80) D Noah Laberge 
81) RW Aiden Lane 
82) D Oliwer Sjostrom 
83) D Maxim Agafonov 
84) D Artyom Vilchinsky 
85) RW Sam Spehar 
86) G Isak Sorqvist 
87) C/RW Vit Zahejsky 
88) RW Tanner Lam 
89) G Gabriel D'Aigle 
90) LW Viktor Klingsell 
91) LW Ruslan Karimov 
92) G Ondrej Stebetak 
93) RW LJ Mooney 
94) D Lasse Boelius 
95) C Michal Svrcek 
96) RW Ryker Lee
 
97) RW Vaclav Nestrasil 
98) D Edison Engle 
99) D Malte Vass 
100) LW Yegor Murashev
 
Hope I didn't forget anyone.... 
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 Upside Hockey's 2025 NHL Draft Headquarters
-  July 2024 Update: our way too  early Top 96 now up!
 
Quick link:
 http://bit.ly/2025nhldraftguide
https://twitter.com/user/status/1805034143203393536
NOTE: 
The Complexity of the Treliving Legacy Monahan First Rnder Trade to Habs: 
via Sureloss:
 
"Conditions
 
(A) if Panthers 2025 first transfers to Flames then 
(1) if both Flames and Panthers 2025 firsts are not in top 10 then Canadiens receive more favorable of Flames, Panthers picks; 
or 
(2) if Flames 2025 first is in top 10 and Panthers 2025 first is not in top 10 then Canadiens receive Panthers 2025 first;
 
(B) if Panthers 2025 first does not transfer to Flames then 
(1) if Flames 2025 first is #1 overall then Canadiens receive Flames 2025 third and more favorable of Flames, Panthers 2026 firsts; 
or 
(2) if Flames 2025 first is #2-10 then Canadiens receive Flames 2025 first; 
or 
(3) if Flames 2025 first is not in top 10 then Canadiens receive Flames 2025 first and 
(a) if Panthers 2025 first is not in top 10 and (b) Panthers 2025 first has been transferred to another team and (c) Panthers 2025 first is more favorable than Flames then Canadiens receive Flames 2025 fourth)
 
(A) happens as long as Florida doesn't pick top 10 because the pick was top 10 protected in the Tkachuk trade
 
(B) happens if Florida picks top 10 which is unlikely to occur it seem right now.
 
Worst case scenario for (A) would be for the Flames 1st to pick just outside the top 10 and Panthers late 1st round, because that means the Flames would transfer their 1st to Montreal"  
			
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Just updated original (now long a$$ post that i'm quoting lol) with Bingo's latest Consolidated Top 64.
 
I haven't promoted anywhere else yet nor posted on Substack newsletter yet, so CP gets exclusive first glimpse - link above in OP.
 Upside Update:
In somewhat exciting news for us, behind the scenes been working on publishing a digital (PDF)  Draft Guide. We're probably ~75% done (working on final mock draft, cover, final edits, etc) - hope to release by end of week/weekend. Everything else we offer is free, so first premium product. Stay tuned! (CPers will definitely get a discount if interested! Thx for al the support we get here!)
		  
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
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			I don't know why but the goalie I think the Flames will draft is Frolov. He just keeps popping up in my arm chair Scouting. Just reeks of a goalie that the Goalie department would love to get their hands on.  
 
Plus we love drafting Russian goalies recently. Got a whole stable of em over there in the back.
		 
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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				I don't know why but the goalie I think the Flames will draft is Frolov. He just keeps popping up in my arm chair Scouting. Just reeks of a goalie that the Goalie department would love to get their hands on.  
 
Plus we love drafting Russian goalies recently. Got a whole stable of em over there in the back. 
			
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				When Cootes did have the support at the U18s he led Canada in points and is probably pretty similar level offensively to Reschny and Kindel. Id still rank them just like you did though, Id rather the Flames draft Reschny -  Kindel - Cootes. 
 
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Cootes is probably the only one who stick at center at the NHL level. Reschny is 50/50 if he sticks at center. Kindel is most likely a winger, he just isn’t a good enough of a skater to play center at the NHL level. 
 
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			There are at least three defensemen in the first round that would be very, very, VERY hard to pass up if they fell to us, other than Schaefer of course- Aitcheson, Mrtka, and Smith. 
 
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				There are at least three defensemen in the first round that would be very, very, VERY hard to pass up if they fell to us, other than Schaefer of course- Aitcheson, Mrtka, and Smith. 
 
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