[GT] Canada Election 2025

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by direwolf

I think the big lesson for the CPC is that Canada is, and always has been a centre-left country, and that MAGA style politics is a huge turn-off for the majority of Canadians. If the Cons had ditched PP, elected a more serious candidate, and dropped the Maple MAGA bulls***, they could have easily won this election.

Right, or he should have backed off when Trudeau was no longer the candidate. Trudeau, carbon tax and affordability were PP's only bullets. Two out of three were no longer targets.

And a simple new question, how would you deal with Trump? PP had no answer.

[TheIronMaiden]

Originally Posted by direwolf

I think the big lesson for the CPC is that Canada is, and always has been a centre-left country, and that MAGA style politics is a huge turn-off for the majority of Canadians. If the Cons had ditched PP, elected a more serious candidate, and dropped the Maple MAGA bulls***, they could have easily won this election.

They have a tough time explaining that to the conspiratorial thinkers and religious zealots who show up to party leadership races and vote in droves.

The tent is too big, they've got the kick those people out.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by direwolf

I think the big lesson for the CPC is that Canada is, and always has been a centre-left country, and that MAGA style politics is a huge turn-off for the majority of Canadians. If the Cons had ditched PP, elected a more serious candidate, and dropped the Maple MAGA bulls***, they could have easily won this election.

If Carney was the Conservative leader, and he’s not much different than the centre right at it is, the CPC would’ve had a historic win, no doubt.

[Sylvanfan]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

I think it would be political suicide for the NDP to go along with the liberals. They need to carve out a hill to die on.

Can they afford to be dragged into an election 6 months from now? I think that's the political suicide they need to worry about.

[Winsor_Pilates]

Originally Posted by getbak

If the current seat count holds, they're only 4 seats away from a majority. Will Carney try to entice at least 4 MPs (from any party) to cross the floor to secure the majority?

Still 11 ridings where Liberals are close 2nd and being counted.
A couple are within 60 votes right now.

Lots of special ballot votes to count; so maybe those tend to go and certain way.

My riding Vancouver Kingsway is still in play. Long time NDP MP leading but only about 300 votes.

[prizefighterinferno]

Originally Posted by SutterBrother

https://www.thefp.com/p/meet-the-alb...eparatists-who

"Constitutional lawyer" (with multiple hearings recommending sanctions from the Law Society of Alberta) who implicitly disregards the existence of Treaties within Canadian federalism and somehow sees the current goings-on in the US as freedom from government interference.

Unhinged.

[Fuzz]

Originally Posted by GirlySports

Right, or he should have backed off when Trudeau was no longer the candidate. Trudeau, carbon tax and affordability were PP's only bullets. Two out of three were no longer targets.

And a simple new question, how would you deal with Trump? PP had no answer.

He wouldn't even allow press to ask him! I think it's time the CPC part ways with Pierre's ex. Her campaign strategies just don't work on Canadians.

[iggy_oi]

Pierre’s wife this morning: “You know, when you told me that your slogan was gonna be ‘bring it home’ this isn’t what I thought you had in mind”

[CorsiHockeyLeague]

Originally Posted by direwolf

I think the big lesson for the CPC is that Canada is, and always has been a centre-left country, and that MAGA style politics is a huge turn-off for the majority of Canadians. If the Cons had ditched PP, elected a more serious candidate, and dropped the Maple MAGA bulls***, they could have easily won this election.

Well, it's not quite so simple as that, because Erin O'Toole lost a lead also. Not quite as big, but it's a bit more nuanced than you're making it.

At this point I simply have no idea, at all, who should be the CPC leader.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by CorsiHockeyLeague

Well, it's not quite so simple as that, because Erin O'Toole lost a lead also. Not quite as big, but it's a bit more nuanced than you're making it.

At this point I simply have no idea, at all, who should be the CPC leader.

They’ve been through so many and so many candidates recently. Scheer, O’Toole, and Poilievre are all fairly different, yet all kind of lost it for similar reasons, yet I have zero confidence the CPC understands those reasons well enough to change.

Well maybe not Scheer. He was always a hilariously bad candidate.

[Matty81]

Originally Posted by TheIronMaiden

The Conservatives received ~42% of the popular vote, and progressives won 51% across all parties. The CPC really needs to stare those numbers in the face if they wanto to govern. Especially against what looks like a centrist LPC formation.

I think the underlying numbers as far as their core base are even uglier, they got many extra votes this go round because we're talking about a 4th straight election loss where the fatigue with the governing party couldn't be any higher and they were surely bumped by the frustration/alienated on track record voters they still lost - inevitable in Canada that there's a change in gov but long run the way they have been embracing the maple maga crazy people, they're going to lose 3/4 elections for another century if they just keep pandering to the extreme alberta right wingers - that #### doesn't play in numbers anywhere outside AB and maybe Saskatchewan.

Does anyone know when the results are going to start coming in this morning? It's lunchtime already out east and the special ballot tallies still aren't in, kind of crazy.

[edslunch]

Originally Posted by Torture

165 LIB + 7 NDP...still have to declare a speaker but don't look now but that's juuuust enough for a Liberal NDP (+ Green?) coalition

The smart play for the Liberals is to focus on the economy and trade but make no deals or concessions with the other parties. You want to force an election on those issues? Be my guest.

Puts the Conservatives in a tough spot. Not to mention those are the right priorities anyway.

[keenan87]

Do we know how many people voted? % of eligible voters. I cannot seem to find it anywhere.

[Hanni]

Originally Posted by keenan87

Do we know how many people voted? % of eligible voters. I cannot seem to find it anywhere.

19,216,559 of 28,525,638 registered electors (67.37 %) -- does not include electors who registered on election day.

At the bottom here https://enr.elections.ca/National.aspx?lang=e

[cral12]

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[kevman]

Originally Posted by edslunch

The smart play for the Liberals is to focus on the economy and trade but make no deals or concessions with the other parties. You want to force an election on those issues? Be my guest.

Puts the Conservatives in a tough spot. Not to mention those are the right priorities anyway.

I'm not so sure someone can look at the results and just assume the Liberal and NDP coalition is what makes the most sense. This election signaled a general shift to the right including the near complete rejection of the NDP.

The Liberals themselves shifted right to maintain their centrist hold. People supported the Liberals with a new leader and a promised greater focus on the economy. An NDP coalition does not bode well for the Liberals at the next election IMO - it signals that they are in fact the same party that people largely rejected a few months ago.

[keenan87]

Originally Posted by Hanni

19,216,559 of 28,525,638 registered electors (67.37 %) -- does not include electors who registered on election day.

At the bottom here https://enr.elections.ca/National.aspx?lang=e

Isn't that a bit underwhelming after such a strong showing at the advanced polls?

[GirlySports]

Originally Posted by Matty81

I think the underlying numbers as far as their core base are even uglier, they got many extra votes this go round because we're talking about a 4th straight election loss where the fatigue with the governing party couldn't be any higher and they were surely bumped by the frustration/alienated on track record voters they still lost - inevitable in Canada that there's a change in gov but long run the way they have been embracing the maple maga crazy people, they're going to lose 3/4 elections for another century if they just keep pandering to the extreme alberta right wingers - that #### doesn't play in numbers anywhere outside AB and maybe Saskatchewan.

Does anyone know when the results are going to start coming in this morning? It's lunchtime already out east and the special ballot tallies still aren't in, kind of crazy.

You don't have the poll workers who do the counting this morning. They're job finished last night. So it's all being done slowly at the office by full time staff. Maybe some poll workers took an extra shift today.

[CroFlames]

That is disgusting that 30% of Albertans want to leave Canada.

How about adjusting your voting so we can some real representation in government.

[Johnny Makarov]

Originally Posted by GGG

Kenny had the best opening up strategy, he did the best on schools, he sacrificed (or perhaps miscalculated the cost) his career going against his base. He closed things down too late leading to longer closures.

Of the premiers in Canada I’d say he was number 6. The Atlantic bubble and BC beating him out. He was ok.

He also started running for PPs job yesterday and was hilariously caught when Bartan talked about the knives being out for pp

Kenny also donated $1.4 billion of our money! The deplorable is a loser and will always be a loser.

If he only came out of the closet, things would go so much better for him.