03-07-2025, 08:46 PM
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#121
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Cozens hasnt looked good for a while but he might bounce back he is still young
Can Norris stay healthy?
Risk all around
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03-07-2025, 08:48 PM
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#122
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Needs More Cowbell
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Not Canada, Eh?
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Glad Flames didn't pick up Cozens. Think he's on the way down. Would've been more interested in Norris.
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03-07-2025, 09:58 PM
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#123
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Franchise Player
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This feels like such an Ottawa Senators thing to do.
A slightly cheaper, slightly younger, much worse defensively, player with one outlier season.
This is why they’re the 3rd most popular team in their own market.
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03-07-2025, 10:12 PM
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#124
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Franchise Player
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Originally Posted by GreenLantern2814
This is why they’re the 3rd most popular team in their own market.
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They're third most popular team in their own market because the two most hyped teams in the league, with the biggest media coverage, are right on either side of them, and both those teams have been around for over a century.
Look how many Leaf and Hab fans there are in Calgary. And we're two time zones away.
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03-07-2025, 10:14 PM
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#125
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Crash and Bang Winger
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Singapore
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Originally Posted by Jay Random
They're third most popular team in their own market because the two most hyped teams in the league, with the biggest media coverage, are right on either side of them, and both those teams have been around for over a century.
Look how many Leaf and Hab fans there are in Calgary. And we're two time zones away.
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Not disagreeing, but his point still stands. Pretty sure if Ottawa was a powerhouse you would see a lot more fans.
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03-08-2025, 09:08 AM
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#126
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Lifetime Suspension
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Originally Posted by Ped
Cozen's best season is better than Norris'. And Norris' career high GP is 66. He's topped 60 once. Hugh health risk there.
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They can LTIR him. Really no getting out of the Cozen deal you can’t LTIR a player because they are no good.
Will be cheering hard for Zary and Norris.
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03-19-2025, 11:57 PM
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#128
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Good for him. Hope he has a hell of a career.
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03-20-2025, 05:28 AM
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#129
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Franchise Player
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Norris is also injured again, so OTT is the early winner.
That said Chychrun looked like a stud in OTT putting up 13P in 14GP, being +9, then something went wrong and he looked rather average. Debrincat was another player that looked great to start, putting up 8 points in his first 7 games as a Senator.
Don't get me wrong both Chychrun and Debrincat are pretty good players, but OTT moved on from both rather quickly, getting less than what they originally paid.
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03-20-2025, 06:02 AM
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#130
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Toronto, Ontario
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Originally Posted by gvitaly
Norris is also injured again, so OTT is the early winner.
That said Chychrun looked like a stud in OTT putting up 13P in 14GP, being +9, then something went wrong and he looked rather average. Debrincat was another player that looked great to start, putting up 8 points in his first 7 games as a Senator.
Don't get me wrong both Chychrun and Debrincat are pretty good players, but OTT moved on from both rather quickly, getting less than what they originally paid.
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Yup. Those are kinda vanity stats posted. He’s going to get more playing time than most in the team so those stats are bound to be high when only looking at the team. Six games in he has five points. Not bad but nothing earth shattering in a small sample.
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03-20-2025, 07:06 AM
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#131
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by activeStick
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We needed to get this one done. Type of trade that can help avoid a rebuild.
Where is Paulie Walnuts? Boat anchor contract and 40-point guy?
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03-20-2025, 07:29 AM
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#132
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Lifetime Suspension
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-4 last game lol.
Maybe wait more than n5 games lol what a joke.
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03-20-2025, 07:48 AM
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#133
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
-4 last game lol.
Maybe wait more than n5 games lol what a joke.
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I show -3. Was he on for a couple empty netters too?
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03-20-2025, 08:38 AM
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#134
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Powerplay Quarterback
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL
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I was 50/50 on acquiring him...depended on the cost as there was/is definitely risk associated with him.
Apparently the main ask was Zary which I would have been fine with as I think Zary's ceiling is lower than Cozens. Plus C>LW.
Either way...OTT deserves some success. Wish them both the best.
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03-20-2025, 11:19 AM
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Franchise Player
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Red Deer, AB
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Originally Posted by Paulie Walnuts
-4 last game lol.
Maybe wait more than n5 games lol what a joke.
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He was +3 against Boston two games prior.
In the games I've watched, Cozens looks pretty good in Ottawa
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03-20-2025, 11:25 AM
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Owner
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Calgary
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I always get a kick out of those that rush to quick "I told you so's" with a minute sample size.
(and I like Cousins!)
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03-20-2025, 11:38 AM
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#137
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#1 Goaltender
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Originally Posted by Bingo
I always get a kick out of those that rush to quick "I told you so's" with a minute sample size.
(and I like Cousins!)
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When the claims are outrageous, you don't need to wait for more games.
It's not like anyone is saying he's proven he's a franchise center in just 6 games.
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03-20-2025, 12:07 PM
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#138
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Backup Goalie
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: Oakland
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Originally Posted by Macho0978
When the claims are outrageous, you don't need to wait for more games.
It's not like anyone is saying he's proven he's a franchise center in just 6 games.
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How so? Any claim needs a reasonably sized data set to have a point, before that it is just noise.
eg) Mark Jankowski is scoring at a goal per game pace in Carolina since that trade.
I think the need to be slow and analytically challenge our own beliefs is especially important for situations where we have an emotional response (eg thinking something is outrageous). Emotions cloud our judgments and create intellectual blind spots.
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03-20-2025, 12:17 PM
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#139
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Franchise Player
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Cozens fits in Ottawa's age cohort and they had the assets for it. He fits much better in their window. Not sure why its our problem
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03-20-2025, 12:47 PM
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#140
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Lifetime Suspension
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Macho0978
When the claims are outrageous, you don't need to wait for more games.
It's not like anyone is saying he's proven he's a franchise center in just 6 games.
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Type of trade that avoids rebuilds? Lol
So you can stay the same. Cozens isn't a franchise changer, and Ottawa was rolling before him anyways.
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