The ads with PP glad handing convoyers are going to make it way too easy to frame PP as Maple Trump. And given how Canadians feel about Trump? Ya, not good.
This is why even if Trudeau stayed on he would have beat the Reform Party Yapdog. Merry Xmas libs! PP just giftwrapped a majority govt for you.
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Justin has really hit his stride over the past couple of months. It's too bad that we didn't get this version of him from the beginning.
Over the past couple of month's he's been a placeholder for the next leader so hard to say he hit his stride as a leader when he had practically both feet out the door. Not a Carney fan but I can't imagine things could get much worse under him than what he's inherited from one of the all time worst PM's. The only time the country was ever united under Trudeau was when the polls showed that nearly all Canadians wanted him out. Hopefully Carney won't be nearly as divisive as that ultimately leads to what's going on south of the border.
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Jack Layton was 100% a narcissist. Go watch the video of him in the bar when Canada won the gold medal in 2010. Literally pushes someone out of the way so he can get on camera.
People have a lot of love for Layton posthumously, but he's the reason the NDP moved from being a working class and labour party to whatever they are now.
EDIT: I actually kinda put Layton in the same boat as PP a bit. Not in terms of policy or character. Just that both were/are more about slogans than policy.
I had an interaction with him about a couple of years before he passed and he was incredibly kind when no one was around
Again poor compared to one country that's moved to an all out techligarchy.
Compared to other democratic states with similar low birth rates it was reasonably good.
If you want to blame the governing party for Covid and Trump that's your right.
I wasn’t placing any blame, I was questioning when you think you have to hold the governing party accountable for the Canadian economy. You were blaming the NDP for our poor economic performance.
So even with your new parameters (we can’t include the US, our next door neighbour and biggest trading partner) do you still blame the NDP for how we fared economically?
Over the past couple of month's he's been a placeholder for the next leader so hard to say he hit his stride as a leader when he had practically both feet out the door. Not a Carney fan but I can't imagine things could get much worse under him than what he's inherited from one of the all time worst PM's. The only time the country was ever united under Trudeau was when the polls showed that nearly all Canadians wanted him out. Hopefully Carney won't be nearly as divisive as that ultimately leads to what's going on south of the border.
Was Trudeau really all that divisive, or was it just his last name and the party he represents?
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I hope we can all take a moment to acknowledge that Mark Carney is in fact an Oilers fan
Finally a critique that will actually affect my vote. This suggests very poor judgment.
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You think the NDP are to blame for the poor economic performance of Canada?
At what point do you hold the governing party accountable?
At what point do you hold the Canadian free market accountable? Since around 2010-ish, investment behaviour has gone in these directions
a) Canadians invest in S&P 500 index funds. That hurts the Canadian economy because we are putting our money into the growth of US corporations.
b) Canadians invest in Canadian dividend stocks, like banks and O&G companies. Dividend stocks inherently lack growth potential
c) Canadians invest in real estate, which is a secondary economy, and was his hard by unexpected foreign investments that few would have predicted
In general, Canadians' refusal to invest in Canadian small businesses and the growth of Canadian corporations in lieu of the above three options is a problem at the grassroots level, not a political problem. Maybe government can add regulation on these three things, but most of that would be anti-Free Market regulation.
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So, that's definitely pretty far out of date... What the "PP Conservatives" are actually running on / proposing in terms of policy you can sort of glean from some of his speeches (aside from repealing the carbon tax, a lot of focus on home building and "tough on crime" stuff), and whether that sells you on him I guess depends on whether or not it sounds plausible to you. Some of it does to me, some of it sounds like typical "I'd like to win an election please, I'm against crime and high taxes" stuff.
The reality is that you'll basically have to wait for an election to be called before you get something that could "sell you" on the CPC or NDP. No one ever wants to tell anyone where they stand until as late as possible so that they can be as sure as possible that where they stand will be popular come election day... that's never been more obvious than now. The LPC is the only party that's had anything to run for, and therefore the only party whose leader needed to have a clear set of policy goals to run on.
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In general, Canadians' refusal to invest in Canadian small businesses and the growth of Canadian corporations in lieu of the above three options is a problem at the grassroots level, not a political problem. Maybe government can add regulation on these three things, but most of that would be anti-Free Market regulation.
You have to ask why the investment community feels that growth in Canada is not worth investing in? Why is the US market more attractive? What market forces or policy measures are limiting Canadian growth?
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