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Old 03-07-2025, 02:09 PM   #261
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Yeah, I know. I just assumed the poster I was responding to still thought they would possibly trade him even after signing. But they probably didn't know he was signed, so it's a moooot point now.
I did not see that. Well shoot, this is why it's important not to throw away the plan to chase WC 2 spot.

Build through the draft for next few years, sign Makar in 2027 to a 7 year deal, graduate draft picks and compete for 2027/2028

If playoffs happen next 2 seasons then its a bonus
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Old 03-07-2025, 02:11 PM   #262
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He did well in Colorado when MacKinnon was injured. He just didn't do well in Carolina under a much different style of play. You're only looking at recent and very limited information.
Pretty sure someone posted his numbers with and without MacKinnon and it wasn't good.

Guess we will see how he fits in Dallas. Also would be interesting to hear why he didn't want to play in Carolina. They seems to always have a good team, but have trouble keeping players of this caliber.
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Old 03-07-2025, 04:01 PM   #263
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Rantanen was very comfortable with a RH center in MacKinnon, looked off with a LH center in Aho. Or maybe I'm just reading way too much into it,
Kadri had his career year centering Rantanen
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Old 03-07-2025, 04:02 PM   #264
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Pretty sure someone posted his numbers with and without MacKinnon and it wasn't good.

Guess we will see how he fits in Dallas. Also would be interesting to hear why he didn't want to play in Carolina. They seems to always have a good team, but have trouble keeping players of this caliber.

Pretty sure the stats show that Makar and MacKinnon are pretty dependent on each other and not nearly as good with anyone else.
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Old 03-07-2025, 04:28 PM   #266
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Pretty sure someone posted his numbers with and without MacKinnon and it wasn't good.

Guess we will see how he fits in Dallas. Also would be interesting to hear why he didn't want to play in Carolina. They seems to always have a good team, but have trouble keeping players of this caliber.
Google says he's: 24 goals, 34 assists and a plus-minus of +20 in 58 games without MacKinnon in his career. So pretty much a point a game.
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Google says he's: 24 goals, 34 assists and a plus-minus of +20 in 58 games without MacKinnon in his career. So pretty much a point a game.
Yeah it's a false narrative that he's not been effective without MacKinnon.
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Jamie Benn was 27 and also considered a top 5 or 10 premier forward in the game when he signed his current deal. How many prime years do they think they get out of Rantanen? This looks like a deal that will be considered an anchor in 2-3 years tops
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Old 03-07-2025, 05:49 PM   #269
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Yikes, you want to be admitting this kind of thing as a rookie gm?
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Yikes, you want to be admitting this kind of thing as a rookie gm?

Yeah, and they have an assistant GM who is doing what during this time? It's not a one person show. Weird thing to announce.
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Good haul for Rantanen. Surprised he couldn't fit in Carolina. Stars looking scary now.
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So no official Rantanen extension yet?
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So no official Rantanen extension yet?
Wasn't it announced 12x8?
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Memories of the Oilers grinding on Ryan Smyth all trade deadline, the money difference being the same as the Oilers locker room upgrades, resulting in trading him and preventing them from dumping other pending free agents (who all left).
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I honestly wouldn’t be totally crushed if I was the canes. Sucks they didn’t get him extended but some powerhouse teams this year and they have lots of draft capital for off season additions via trade or draft. Roll the dice and see what they can do this year while getting better next year. Not the worst.
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I'd be pretty confused if I was a Canes fan. Very good team, but took an obvious step back for this year's playoffs unless Stankoven does something insane. Just a weird month for that organization.
They really messed up
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Old 03-08-2025, 11:20 AM   #279
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So, McDavid moving on then I take it? How the hell did they plan on paying for all that?

Even with the cap bump what would the rest of that team look like?
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