American Politics 4.0 - Orangeyou Glad He’s Back?

[ResAlien]

lol at any and all manufactured outrage at this. Oh you poor children I can only imagine how your faith in democracy has been shattered by this betrayal of the highest order. Let's hope the turnip truck you’re riding on doesn't hit any more bumps along the way.

[Locke]

Originally Posted by ResAlien

lol at any and all manufactured outrage at this. Oh you poor children I can only imagine how your faith in democracy has been shattered by this betrayal of the highest order. Let's hope the turnip truck you’re riding on doesn't hit any more bumps along the way.

My Pearls tho!! My PEARLS!!!

[Cali Panthers Fan]

Originally Posted by curves2000

No arguments from me about this and other things too. I am just saying that prior to the pardon there was a lot of this moral high ground coming from Biden supporters and the White House directly.

I actually don't fault Biden for pardoning his son, I really don't. Hell if I was Biden, I would pardon myself just for the hell of it.

I can see where this is going though. If and when Trump pardons his children for mass fraud, what is the other side going to say? Fraud is more serious than gun charges? Or will Republicans say that a gun charge is more serious than monetary value?

America is beyond messed up when you got crooked families across the board running things. Hillary Clinton and 35k emails for yoga and muffins?? Give me a break. Bush #1 & #2 with wars in the middle east for democracy or for more oil wealth for connected cronies. Biden and his dealings with who knows what. Trump with his billion ethics issues and ongoing concerns.

The famous case of Narcissus in Greek Mythology who fell in love with his own image cause he didn't recognize himself. In reality, all these leaders are actually PIGS and we all know that PIGS have the same noses.

Finally! A "but her emails!" mention! I've been waiting to fill out this last bingo square forever, and I thought it wouldn't happen, but thank you for bringing it up without any merit or valid context in the comparison!

Oh, and nice job grasping at straws with "whatever Biden was into". Nice false equivalency with ZERO evidence.

This is why I'm okay with fighting back dirty. This is how the conversation is framed these days, with both sides being equally bad as a false equivalency. Just the lowest form of logical fallacy spinning America into this sense of doom whenever democrats are in power. Democrats can't win against this type of illogical rhetoric, so the only thing left to do is play by their rules.

[PepsiFree]

FYI to anyone wondering (nobody I’m guessing) but you can criticize Biden for the pardon or just not defend the pardon without ceding ground to the right wing trolls who are literally only using it as a “gotchya” and actually do not care whether you agree or disagree with the pardon.

[kermitology]

You almost have to stand back in awe at how the media, the GOP, even other Democrats are so focused on the rules applying to Biden and wanting to hold him accountable but then completely ignore Trump's flagrant violation of other rules and norms.

Nothing matters anymore. Democrats need to understand that the rules of the game are made up and if the Republicans aren't going to play by them, why the heck should you?

I mean, Hunter's conviction was the definition of political prosecution. He had a plea agreement in place until Trump and his allies cried foul.

[Lanny_McDonald]

Originally Posted by kermitology

You almost have to stand back in awe at how the media, the GOP, even other Democrats are so focused on the rules applying to Biden and wanting to hold him accountable but then completely ignore Trump's flagrant violation of other rules and norms.

This is really why Harris lost the election. She was held to a much higher standard than Trump was. Trump was held to no standard. Biden was forced to drop out after he looked like a confused grandpa. After the debate against Harris, Trump should have been forced to step down after looking like a demented incompetent grandpa. But the media did not apply the same level of scrutiny nor pressure to the Republicans and he got a free pass. The double standard, the underlying reverence to the patriarchy, and the fear of white majority slipping into the minority were the drivers to the loss.

[Fuzz]

[GullFoss]

We went from “The Hunter Biden laptop isn’t real” to “Hunter Biden has federal criminal immunity for all crimes committed during the active years of the Hunter Biden Laptop”

lmao. Gold medals could be handed out for the whataboutism and mental gymnastics today

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

We went from “The Hunter Biden laptop isn’t real” to “Hunter Biden has federal criminal immunity for all crimes committed during the active years of the Hunter Biden Laptop”

lmao. Gold medals could be handed out for the whataboutism and mental gymnastics today

I don’t think you can give yourself a gold medal but rest assured your efforts are recognized.

[Fuzz]

I believe the tweet I posted above is for people like you, GF. Try to keep up.

[indes]

Originally Posted by Looch City

While Biden is busy covering his own bases and benefiting his own family, Trump is out there negotiating peace with both Russia and Israel. And all that BEFORE he's in even in power.

Now you tell me who's the better President. Amazing stuff. Love to see it, if only there was a way for him to run a third time.

Watch him somehow eliminate term limits only to be smoked by Obama in 2028.

[PsYcNeT]

Is there any real news to talk about today or just concern trolling about something that neither side really cares about

[GullFoss]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...disinfo-430276.

I'm actually dying at the mental gymnastics.

[PepsiFree]

Originally Posted by PsYcNeT

Is there any real news to talk about today or just concern trolling about something that neither side really cares about

Please don’t interrupt while Canadian Trump supporters are attempting to criticize Biden for acting like a half-sweet no foam lite diet Trump and still expecting people not to laugh at them.

[Dion]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

We went from “The Hunter Biden laptop isn’t real” to “Hunter Biden has federal criminal immunity for all crimes committed during the active years of the Hunter Biden Laptop”

lmao. Gold medals could be handed out for the whataboutism and mental gymnastics today

The convicted felon who just got away with his crimes has words about a miscarriage of justice. Now that's hilarious!

[GullFoss]

Biden pardons his son for 10 years of criminality encompassing the period Hunter was active in Ukraine.

Pepsi lovers and panthers fans: "but what about trump. What about people who support trump. What about trump. Let's talk about trump."

[GullFoss]

Originally Posted by Dion

The convicted felon who just got away with his crimes has words about a miscarriage of justice. Now that's hilarious!

Guys, let's talk about trump.

[kermitology]

Originally Posted by Lanny_McDonald

This is really why Harris lost the election. She was held to a much higher standard than Trump was. Trump was held to no standard. Biden was forced to drop out after he looked like a confused grandpa. After the debate against Harris, Trump should have been forced to step down after looking like a demented incompetent grandpa. But the media did not apply the same level of scrutiny nor pressure to the Republicans and he got a free pass. The double standard, the underlying reverence to the patriarchy, and the fear of white majority slipping into the minority were the drivers to the loss.

Absolutely.

The media especially WANTED Trump in power quite obviously. It's viewed as good for business because Trump's chaos train of idiocy makes for a lot of reporting. He probably nominated Kash Patel on Saturday so he had content to watch on Sunday morning as all of the main cable news networks wrung their hands about how bad this is. It probably makes that tiny dick of his SO HARD having everyone freak out about his nominations.

The biggest lesson the Democrats need to learn is that there are no more rules. Throw them all out. You will not win if you try to play by them because your opponent doesn't.

[PsYcNeT]

Fellas, is it appropriate to talk about American Presidential Pardons in the American Presidential Pardon chat

[Ozy_Flame]

Originally Posted by GullFoss

Guys, let's talk about trump.

Sure!

Trump's pardons of criminals:

Political Allies and Associates:
Michael Flynn: Trump's former national security advisor, convicted of lying to the FBI.
Roger Stone: A long-time political advisor, convicted of obstruction, witness tampering, and lying to Congress.
Paul Manafort: Trump’s former campaign chairman, convicted of tax and bank fraud.

Business Associates:
Steve Bannon: Former White House strategist, charged with defrauding donors in a border wall fundraising campaign.

Law Enforcement:
Joe Arpaio: Former Arizona sheriff known for his hardline stance on immigration, convicted of contempt of court.

Celebrities and Notable Individuals:
Lil Wayne: Rapper, pardoned for a firearm-related offense.
Kodak Black: Rapper, received a commutation for a weapons charge.

Other Controversial Pardons:
Charles Kushner: Jared Kushner's father, convicted of tax evasion, witness tampering, and illegal campaign contributions.
Dinesh D'Souza: Conservative commentator convicted of campaign finance violations.