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Old 11-15-2024, 11:08 PM   #81
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Not that exclusive. Almost everyone would consider all four of those guys, and McDavid, elite. (Maybe not today's Ovechkin, to be fair).
We aren't talking about the Hall of Fame. We are talking about the current players that are truly elite. That should be a very small list.

The four players all have a part of their game that they are not "elite" at.
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Old 11-15-2024, 11:25 PM   #82
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We aren't talking about the Hall of Fame. We are talking about the current players that are truly elite. That should be a very small list.

The four players all have a part of their game that they are not "elite" at.
Zero chance McDavid should be even mentioned in the same breath as Gretzky, Lemieux, Orr or even Crosby. He is a tier below that level at best. Crosby would have scored 200 pts a year playing selfish like McDavid does, instead he decided to actually win something. McDavid isn’t just not “elite” in his defensive game, he is a complete liability to his team on that front.
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